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To: petal who wrote (77901)	8/18/2025 6:06:35 PM
From: Madharry	1 Recommendation Recommended By petal Respond to of 78516

my two cents having made very little money on this is that the key is qualitative spinoffs. You really have to read the fine print carefully. When I was into this company;s took advantage and would load the spinooff with lots of debt the parent would no longer be responsible and frequently there would be contractual obligations owed to the parent company for years. EKS has done very well with it I think, FWIW- my current large positions are STWD RITM BUR DELL HHH SFTBY, bitcoin etfs, krp. bidu sbgi byon and MU. BYON is the one which is pretty speculative and I admit I am swinging for the fences there. SBGI is the one where they say they are exploring strategic restructuring of the company , which might work out if that happens.

To: petal who wrote (77901)	8/18/2025 7:33:00 PM
From: Paul Senior	1 Recommendation Recommended By petal Respond to of 78516

I use several, but I'm not now "outperforming". Imo, commitment is the key. Commit to serious position and commit to holding on a decent time. I'm with Madharry about spin-offs. In my experience they require some patience to work out. Also to garner some confidence, some in-deph knowledge of the details would seem to help, as suggested by Madharry. I like my simplified Greenblatt, which is low p/e with high roe. Going for a package of these. I like copying the ideas of others. Just like in high school, copying from others is the easiest way..-g-... if it works. I could give a plus to the ltb&h of the stocks that fit in some proven models - for example. bruwin's checklist. In current market I seem to be making more buys of what seem to me to be reversion-to-mean plays. Easy enough, but maybe not so safe-- there's is a reason or reasons why these stocks are trading as low as they are.

To: petal who wrote (77901)	8/18/2025 11:04:28 PM
From: Elroy	2 Recommendations Recommended By Lance Bredvold petal Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 78516

it seems that 1) qualitative spin-offs and 2) the "Magic Formula" are the best &/ easiest ways to outperform. I have two questions. 1. What's a qualitative spin off? 2. What's the "Magic Formula"?

To: petal who wrote (77901)	8/19/2025 5:01:37 AM
From: petal	1 Recommendation Recommended By E_K_S Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 78516

Other strategies that seem to be working for me: * To buy companies that have made a profit for 20 straight years (especially when one buys the cheaper ones &/ the ones with high ROC) * Buying the "Dogs of the S&P/Nasdaq Comp" (e.g., the 10 co.'s in the S&P500 with the lowest P/E). * Buying and holding great companies forever, or for a very long time. * Buying shares in companies whose products or services one uses and loves oneself, and whose growth prospects seem compelling (the Lynch approach). * Special situations – e.g., a SPAC is liquidating itself and the cash trades at a discount, but the terms of the liquidation are too complex for most people to bother (but not really that complex, just a bit messy); or a company will redeem its shares at book value, but its shares trades still at a discount to book (these things actually happen (ir)regularly!). * Turnarounds where the turnaround already show signs of happening: as Peter Lynch explained, one shouldn't be in a hurry to buy a turnaround, and one shouldn't be in a hurry to sell it – it usually takes longer (and lasts longer) than one would expect. * Taking a "venture capital" approach, buying companies for the long run, largely disregarding current valuation in the hope of achieving large capital gains (the Phil Fisher approach &/ the Motley Fool approach; growth investing). The two last ones are the most difficult ones to systematize – but also probably the most profitable ones, if done right.