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To: Eric who wrote (1553982)8/22/2025 12:44:44 PM
From: the traveler  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1577083
 
SO?



To: Eric who wrote (1553982)8/22/2025 1:02:12 PM
From: Maple MAGA 3 Recommendations

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longz

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SpaceX provides a service at a lower cost than the government could deliver on its own.

Both Starlink and SpaceX operate efficiently, saving money in the process.

Their services deliver a clear net benefit to everyone who uses them

U.S. Companies That Failed After Government Support

1. Solyndra
  • Received a $535 million U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) loan guarantee, the very first under the program.

  • Declared bankruptcy in 2011.
2. Abound Solar
  • Awarded up to $400 million in federal loan guarantees in December 2010 to build thin-film photovoltaic manufacturing.

  • Filed for bankruptcy in 2012 after drawing only a portion of the supported amount.
3. A123 Systems
  • Received significant DOE support via grants, including a $118.5 million grant to its subsidiary EnerDel in 2009.

  • Filed for bankruptcy in 2012.
4. Fisker Automotive
  • Backed by DOE under the Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing (ATVM) loan program.

  • Filed for bankruptcy in November 2013, with estimates of significant asset–liability imbalances.
5. Beacon Power
  • Received a $43 million DOE loan guarantee in August 2010.

  • Declared bankruptcy in October 2011.
6. Crescent Dunes Solar Energy Project (Tonopah)
  • Received a $737 million DOE loan guarantee to build a concentrating solar power plant near Tonopah, Nevada.

  • Later defaulted on the loan and filed for bankruptcy.
7. KiOR
  • Secured a $75 million state loan guarantee in Mississippi, and pursued up to $564 million in DOE guarantees.

  • Filed for bankruptcy in 2014, failing to deliver on biofuel production promises.
8. Ener1 / EnerDel
  • The $118.5 million DOE grant in 2009 supported EnerDel battery production.

  • The company later filed for bankruptcy in 2012.
9. Evergreen Solar
  • Located in Massachusetts, the company benefited from substantial state-level subsidies and incentives.

  • Filed for bankruptcy protection in 2011, leaving taxpayers covering significant debts.



To: Eric who wrote (1553982)8/22/2025 1:25:38 PM
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longz

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Would not have been possible without massive government handouts, grants and subsidies.

That's absolutely correct, in regards to Tesla. Although you need to add mandates to that list. Tesla would have gone tits up, years ago, without all of that..