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To: Craig Freeman who wrote (24078)2/25/1998 1:57:00 AM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 33344
 
Craig,

if you look closely as the 90MHz benchmarks you will see that the speed of a processor does not improve linearly with the bus speed.

I don't know what data on the benchmark you are looking at to arrive at your conclusion. The only thing that's anywhere close to comparing apples with apples is K6 at 2.5x90=225 and 3.5x66=233, where slower CPU on faster bus beats (by small margin) a faster CPU on slower bus.

I would have run the tests differently from John Howland to see how increase of bus speed contributes to performance.

With a special MB, heavy-duty heatsink and hand-selected memory what you can squeeze out of a CPU is, at best, about what you would expect from the next higher clock speed of the same CPU.

As long as a significant percentage of the code can run from L1/L2 cache, you are right. But if the application is memory bandwidth intensive, the a fast CPU will just be waiting (very fast) for the memory.

You will always get some improvement from a faster CPU, but for example a 1 GHz CPU Socket 7 CPU will not be 5 times faster than 200 MHz CPU. Of course, all depends on the application. There may be an application where you get almost nothing by increasing the CPU speed while memory speed is the same.

I read a while ago about a company that is working on a database server running purely from memory. They claim 10 times greater performance compared to traditional database servers.

But with everyone readying their 0.25u offerings at ever-increasing native speeds, the idea of trading cost and reliability for faster bus speeds and memory problems makes little sense to me.

You don't have to be the first to go through the problems and price premium of faster memory. But in about 6 months all the problems will be ironed out, and there will be no reason not to go with 100 MHz bus.

There will be an alternative approach. MXi will double the memory throughput by doubling the data-path to 128-bit

Joe



To: Craig Freeman who wrote (24078)2/25/1998 6:37:00 AM
From: FJB  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 33344
 
Craig,

The 100MHz bus is going to be an important marketing point, especially for those companies with large marketing budgets(guess who?). If systems start being advertised as having a 100MHz bus, it will be important for Socket 7 systems to be able to make the claim. MMX and AGP fall into this category of marketing points as well.

Bob