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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: didjuneau who wrote (224389)	9/17/2025 1:45:38 PM
From: didjuneau	1 Recommendation Recommended By John Hayman Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224759

He had me up to "both sides". Been there, done that. Separate ships - one is sinking. I am against violence. I am against celebrating violence. I’m praying for peace. I’m praying for healing. I’m praying for the family, especially the children. I know what they’re going through. I’ve been through it. I’m deeply scared for this country. The way some people are… — Seán Ono Lennon (@seanonolennon) September 11, 2025 I am against violence. I am against celebrating violence. I’m praying for peace. I’m praying for healing. I’m praying for the family, especially the children. I know what they’re going through. I’ve been through it. I’m deeply scared for this country. The way some people are reacting on both sides is dangerous. If I had one wish right now it would be for everyone to please just step back and take a breath and remember we are all just sophisticated apes trying to coexist on a rock hurtling through space. If we cannot tolerate polite and reasoned disagreement then there is no hope for our society. There is a famous quote falsely attributed to Voltaire that however does sum up a principle of enlightenment philosophy, ‘I disagree with what you say, but I would die to defend your right to say it.’ The ideas of people like John Locke and Voltaire and Thomas Paine are what lead to the American Revolution which then inspired the French Revolution. They introduced the World to the idea that individual rights were important and should be protected from Monarchs (tyrants and dictators), and ultimately led to the idea that a country should be governed by its people NOT by the Church and NOT by a King. If citizens don’t protect and respect each other’s right to disagree, then we cannot have a democracy. If we do not protect our right to disagree then we’ll get violence. We do NOT want a society where violence is the way we win arguments, because then nobody wins. Everyone loses. We are ALL losing right now. The whole society is losing together. Losing to violence. It’s unbelievably sad. It took so much work to get us here. We can’t throw it all away like spoilt children. I did NOT agree with Charlie Kirk’s views on MANY important topics. I know he helped get Trump elected and people hate him for that. But he was a conservative Christian. What do you expect a conservative Christian to believe? How can those views surprise you? He argued those views calmly, reasonably, and considerately as far as I’ve seen. But no matter what he did not deserve this. His wife did not deserve this. His kids did NOT deserve to have their world torn apart! The way some people are being so cold and uncaring and even celebrating is disturbing and repugnant to me. It is making me physically ill. If you are celebrating the murder of a non-violent man for his opinions then you are NOT the better person. Look in the mirror. Imagine telling his kids how you feel. Step back. Take a breath. Remember we are all humans. We are all just flickers of consciousness in an endless eternity. Love IS the answer. I really mean it. We are quite literally ALL in this together. If this ship sinks we ALL drown. Look around you. Everyone you see is a shipmate. We have to figure this out. We have no other choice.

To: didjuneau who wrote (224389)	9/18/2025 2:46:18 PM
From: didjuneau	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224759

Panic Afoot – Professional Marxists Panic Over the Rise of Decency and Morality Following Charlie Kirk Murder September 18, 2025 \| Sundance \| 424 Comments There is no Charlie Kirk equivalent on the left. There is no leftist individual willing to enter the intellectual or philosophical gauntlet of debate and challenge a conservative audience to “come to the front of the line” and convince the audience of their viewpoint. There is no person of leftist ideology capable of advocating their man-made construct against the natural laws that underpin the conservative worldview of a Charlie Kirk audience. Because the only place their ideology can survive is in an arena without challenge. Consider the example of the ‘Law of the Farm’ vs. the ‘Law of the School’. Natural principles vs. those made by man. A student can skip class, take few notes, pay only half attention, then stay up all night cramming for a test and manage a decent grade. It depends on the student’s goal: grades or learning. The student can choose to manipulate the education, by avoiding the learning and capturing the grade. This is possible in the ‘Law of the School’. However, a farmer cannot take short cuts. A farmer cannot avoid tending to the soil, preparing the seed, fertilizing and nurturing the crop, and still gain benefit of an abundant harvest. The farmer must necessarily do all of the appropriate work in order to benefit from it. Such is the ‘Law of the Farm’, the natural law. This is the position from which Charlie Kirk effectively advanced his beliefs. Stay elevated, and you will notice there is considerable panic visible amid the professional Marxists. The comments and quick responsive appearance of Barack Obama; the jaw-agape leftist reactions to backlash upon Jimmy Kimmel; corporate media entities trying to cope with the reemergence of shame; the fallback to tribalism and the need for reassurance from their echo chamber, and many other visible similarities are all akin to an abuser being confronted by the family of the abused. The constant drumbeat of leftism has battered the minds of Americans for so long, the perpetrators took it for granted they would always hold the strongest position – even if in the minority. However, something has radically changed. A martyr is defined as a person who suffers death as a penalty for refusing to renounce their religion or beliefs. More broadly, a martyr is someone who sacrifices their life, well-being, or freedom to support a principle, belief, or ideology that they hold dear. In the attack posture to defend themselves from the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s murder, the left is proving they just created a martyr. The need for control is a reaction to fear. The panic amid the collective left is so extreme, every mechanism within their arsenal is being deployed to gain control of the narrative. Some of these efforts are so over-the-top they have become absurd. [ SOURCE] Politico identifies the global response to Charlie Kirk’s assassination as the result of international manipulation. Their assertion is absurd in all contexts. Their claims are created within the hive of those who previously constructed the false reality around COVID-19 and subsequent vaccination protocols. People like security analysts at the Center for Internet Security and the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, as well as voices within the control mechanisms of NewsGuard, the private sector information police. “Mentions of Charlie Kirk appeared more than 6,000 times across official media in China, Russia and Iran between Sept. 10-17, according to misinformation tracker NewsGuard.” I’m sure the mention of Charlie Kirk appeared at least that many times in China, Russia and Iran, because what Charlie Kirk embodied is something much larger than the geopolitical constructs their government boundaries represent. A conservative estimate on Google searches alone is around 2.8 million. Multiply that number by every social media and internet communication platform, then consider the ‘mentions‘ found in news feeds and other tech systems. The result is beyond billions. God is universal. God is truth. Trying to manipulate the natural world is the professional skillset of all these various NGOs and influence agents who operate in a realm they ultimately do not control. Two days ago, a 40-year-old Taiwanese woman was riding the escalator halfway around the world from where Charlie Kirk was killed. What was she watching on her phone as she stood descending, a Charlie Kirk speech video with close-captioning translation. The next evening, two middle-age Chinese men were having drinks in an Asian restaurant speaking concerningly in Mandarin. What were they discussing? Charlie Kirk’s assassination. I stand as silent witness to these events. We have never witnessed anything even remotely similar to what is unfolding in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s murder. For the first time in the history of social media, the influence of a person is expanding more in their death than it was during their life. That expansion is seemingly exponential, and substantively spiritual. I have no idea what the future of this story will entail, yet I am absolutely certain of the author who controls it.