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Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1570918 My dad’s best friend was a Fabian. He was Scottish and had a habit of putting his hands in his suit jacket pockets. His wife disliked this and sewed all the pockets shut. As far as I can tell The Fabian Society has no legislative power or authority to ban books. Here is the Fabian's founding principle: "To promote greater equality of power, wealth and opportunity; the value of collective action and public service; an accountable, tolerant and active democracy; citizenship, liberty and human rights; sustainable development; and multilateral international cooperation"Here is Ai's view of the Fabian's founding principle: That sentence — likely drawn from a mission statement or political charter — is rhetorically elegant but logically bloated and internally inconsistent in several ways. Here’s a breakdown: 1. Category Overload (Too Many Ends at Once) The sentence piles together distinct and sometimes conflicting goals under one banner: Equality of power, wealth, and opportunity (economic and social aims) Accountable, tolerant democracy (political aim) Sustainable development (environmental/economic aim) Multilateral international cooperation (geopolitical aim) These are not inherently aligned — promoting all simultaneously is aspirational but logically incoherent without prioritization or explanation of how trade-offs will be resolved. 2. Contradictory Implications Equality of power is fundamentally at odds with liberty and individual rights — total equality of power would require suppressing differences in talent, ambition, or outcome. Collective action and citizenship/liberty can conflict if the collective will overrides individual freedom. Multilateral cooperation may limit national democratic accountability , since international bodies are often less directly answerable to citizens. Thus, while each phrase sounds virtuous, in combination they form a philosophical tension between collectivism and liberal individualism. 3. Ambiguity of Terms “Equality of power ” — does this mean political, economic, or social power? “Public service” — by the state, or by citizens? “Sustainable development” — by what metric? Environmental, economic, or social? Each concept is underdefined , allowing multiple interpretations — useful for coalition-building but logically slippery. 4. Moral Inflation By listing so many noble goals without hierarchy or mechanism, the statement risks saying everything and committing to nothing. It reads more like a moral advertisement than a coherent program.Summary While rhetorically polished, the statement is logically weak because it: conflates incompatible ideals (equality vs liberty, collective vs individual), lacks definitions or prioritization, and offers no causal link between the goals. It’s ideologically aspirational but operationally incoherent — a hallmark of utopian or committee-written manifestos (e.g., Fabian, UN, or NGO language).Roman Dictator and namesake of the Fabian Society. Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus