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To: golfer72 who wrote (1566411)10/19/2025 9:28:31 AM
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"The Left has redefined many words. Immunity, pandemic, vaccine to name a few. Its always a tactic of the Left"

Changing nomenclature by the scientific elite is very profitable, as they write and publish new text books etc go on speaking engagements and impose and enforce new ideas that are not necessarily right.

Most scientific bodies and even engineering associations follow strict rigid rules, individuals who don't behave are ostracized and their credentials suspended until they do.

Summary Observation

Across eras, the pattern is consistent:
Early innovators challenge prevailing paradigms.
Institutions respond with censorship or ridicule.
Time, replication, and data vindicate the outsider.

Here’s a concise but historically grounded list of scientists who were ostracized, ridiculed, or dismissed by their peers — yet later proven right.

1. Galileo Galilei (1564–1642)
  • Controversy: Advocated heliocentrism — the idea that the Earth orbits the Sun — against Church doctrine.
  • Ostracism: Tried by the Inquisition, forced to recant, and lived under house arrest.
  • Vindication: Heliocentrism became foundational to modern astronomy.
2. Ignaz Semmelweis (1818–1865)
  • Controversy: Argued that handwashing with chlorinated lime reduced maternal deaths in hospitals.
  • Ostracism: Mocked and dismissed by the medical establishment; died in an asylum.
  • Vindication: Germ theory later proved him correct; now hailed as the “savior of mothers.”
3. Alfred Wegener (1880–1930)
  • Controversy: Proposed continental drift — that continents move across the Earth’s surface.
  • Ostracism: Rejected by geologists who believed continents were fixed.
  • Vindication: Plate tectonics (1960s) confirmed his theory.
4. Barbara McClintock (1902–1992)
  • Controversy: Discovered “jumping genes” (transposons) in corn genetics.
  • Ostracism: Her work was dismissed for decades as implausible.
  • Vindication: Rediscovered and validated later; received the 1983 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.
5. Barry Marshall and Robin Warren (1980s)
  • Controversy: Proposed that Helicobacter pylori bacteria cause stomach ulcers, not stress.
  • Ostracism: Mocked by the medical community; Marshall drank the bacteria himself to prove it.
  • Vindication: Won the 2005 Nobel Prize; antibiotics now cure ulcers.
6. Gregor Mendel (1822–1884)
  • Controversy: Discovered genetic inheritance patterns in pea plants.
  • Ostracism: His work was ignored for decades after publication.
  • Vindication: Rediscovered in 1900; now the father of modern genetics.
7. Ludwig Boltzmann (1844–1906)
  • Controversy: Advocated atomic theory — that matter is made of atoms — when most physicists denied it.
  • Ostracism: Ridiculed by peers; suffered depression and died by suicide.
  • Vindication: Atomic theory confirmed soon after.
8. Jocelyn Bell Burnell (born 1943)
  • Controversy: Discovered the first radio pulsar as a graduate student.
  • Ostracism: Her supervisor, not she, received the 1974 Nobel Prize.
  • Vindication: Later recognized as one of the greatest observational discoveries in astrophysics.
9. Stanley Prusiner (born 1942)
  • Controversy: Proposed “prions” — infectious proteins without DNA/RNA — as causes of mad cow disease.
  • Ostracism: Widely dismissed as heretical to biology.
  • Vindication: Proven correct; Nobel Prize in 1997.
10. Daniel Shechtman (born 1941)
  • Controversy: Discovered quasicrystals — ordered structures without periodicity.
  • Ostracism: Ridiculed by Linus Pauling and expelled from his research group.
  • Vindication: Nobel Prize in Chemistry, 2011
11. Peter Duesberg (HIV research dissent — partial vindication, contextual)
  • Controversy: Questioned whether HIV alone causes AIDS, arguing drug toxicity and immune stress played larger roles.
  • Ostracism: Blacklisted from journals and funding; labeled a “denialist.”
  • Vindication (partial): While HIV’s causal role is proven, Duesberg’s critiques of drug toxicity and overuse of AZT later prompted major changes in AIDS treatment protocols. His work also helped reintroduce healthy scientific debate about co-factors and viral latency.
12. Judy Mikovits (Retroviruses and immune disorders — partially re-evaluated)
  • Controversy: Claimed retroviruses may contribute to chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) and some cancers.
  • Ostracism: Paper retracted, career derailed, became a lightning rod during the COVID era.
  • Vindication (partial): Subsequent studies confirmed some retroviral activity in CFS, though not her original XMRV link. Her work highlighted overlooked immunological mechanisms in chronic disease research.
13. John Ioannidis (medical reproducibility & evidence bias)
  • Controversy: Published “Why Most Published Research Findings Are False” (2005), arguing much of biomedical science is statistically unreliable.
  • Ostracism: Initially attacked by researchers, accused of undermining public trust in science.
  • Vindication: The “replication crisis” in psychology, medicine, and biology later proved him overwhelmingly right. He’s now one of the most cited living scientists.
14. Henrik Svensmark (cosmic rays and climate)
  • Controversy: Proposed that cosmic rays influence cloud formation and therefore climate — challenging CO2 dominance in climate models.
  • Ostracism: Labeled a “climate skeptic,” excluded from IPCC narratives.
  • Vindication (partial): CERN’s CLOUD experiment (2011–2017) confirmed cosmic rays can indeed seed aerosols — though full climatic impact remains debated.
15. Didier Raoult (antibiotic resistance & COVID-19)
  • Controversy: Pioneered research on bacterial resistance and proposed early COVID treatments (notably hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin).
  • Ostracism: Politically attacked and investigated for “disinformation.”
  • Vindication (partial): Later meta-analyses showed early outpatient treatment could reduce severity in certain subgroups, and his broader antibiotic resistance warnings were prescient.
16. Lisa Mosconi (Alzheimer’s prevention through nutrition)
  • Controversy: Claimed diet and metabolic health play a dominant role in Alzheimer’s risk — dismissed as “pseudoscience” by neurology orthodoxy.
  • Ostracism: Initially marginalized by traditional neuroscientists.
  • Vindication: Recent studies (Harvard, 2020–2024) confirm direct links between insulin resistance, diet, and neurodegenerative risk — validating her “brain nutrition” model.
17. Carole Hooven (sex differences and biology)
  • Controversy: Defended biological sex distinctions in endocrinology amidst political backlash.
  • Ostracism: Publicly condemned at Harvard and pressured to resign.
  • Vindication: Major medical and sports institutions (IOC, NHS, World Rugby) have since reaffirmed the importance of biological sex in performance and medicine.
18. Li Wenliang (COVID-19 early whistleblower, 2019–2020)
  • Controversy: Warned colleagues in Wuhan about a SARS-like virus.
  • Ostracism: Silenced and punished by Chinese authorities for “spreading rumors.”
  • Vindication: COVID-19 was confirmed weeks later; he became a symbol of scientific integrity under repression.
19. Kevin Esvelt (gene drives and bioethics)
  • Controversy: Warned that gene-editing technologies (CRISPR “gene drives”) could be catastrophic if misused.
  • Ostracism: Early concerns dismissed as alarmist.
  • Vindication: Today, international biosecurity bodies cite his foresight; his frameworks are now central to ethical biotech governance.
20. Christopher Busby (low-level radiation risks)
  • Controversy: Claimed chronic low-level ionizing radiation is more harmful than official models predict.
  • Ostracism: Labeled a fringe figure by nuclear agencies.
  • Vindication (partial): Post-Fukushima and Chernobyl epidemiological studies increasingly support elevated cancer risks at “safe” exposure levels.
21. Andrew Wakefield (MMR-autism controversy — complex legacy)
  • Controversy: Suggested possible links between MMR vaccine and bowel-related autism.
  • Ostracism: Stripped of his medical license and vilified.
  • Vindication (partial, indirect): While no direct MMR-autism link was proven, later research confirmed gut–brain immune pathways, microbiome changes, and immune dysfunction in subsets of autism — areas first raised by Wakefield’s early work.
    (Note: His data conduct remains debated; his hypothesis prompted broader legitimate inquiry into neuroimmune disorders.)
22. Tim Noakes (nutrition & insulin resistance)
  • Controversy: Advocated low-carb, high-fat diets for metabolic health, opposing state dietary guidelines.
  • Ostracism: Faced public prosecution and professional censure.
  • Vindication: Acquitted in 2017; large-scale studies now validate low-carb diets for reversing type 2 diabetes and obesity.
23. Sabine Hossenfelder (physics orthodoxy critic)
  • Controversy: Criticized the dominance of string theory and mathematical beauty over empirical validation.
  • Ostracism: Labeled contrarian in theoretical physics circles.
  • Vindication (emerging): Decades of null results from particle accelerators have vindicated her call for realism and testable physics.
24. Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying (evolutionary biology and academic politics)
  • Controversy: Resigned from Evergreen State College after opposing race-based policies and promoting evolutionary psychology insights unpopular in academia.
  • Ostracism: Branded “racist” and ostracized.
  • Vindication: Subsequent mainstream recognition of institutional illiberalism and their accurate evolutionary explanations for sex differences.
25. Robert Malone (mRNA technology originator)
  • Controversy: Raised safety and ethical questions about mass mRNA vaccine deployment.
  • Ostracism: Deplatformed and dismissed as a “disinformation spreader.”
  • Vindication (partial): Later confirmed issues with myocarditis, spike protein persistence, and mRNA instability — matching his early warnings.



To: golfer72 who wrote (1566411)10/19/2025 11:59:16 AM
From: combjelly  Respond to of 1571040
 
Projection is a terrible cross to bear.

My sympathies.



To: golfer72 who wrote (1566411)10/21/2025 4:33:07 AM
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Such naked hatred and prejudice. tut tut.

It's the way of the future by the look of things

Now when the Covaids broke out and the "solution" ... the vaxxine ... started to be even talked about, I was thinking about this part of the lecture.

youtu.be

Amongst the general discussion here. Not just population but things like Petroleum Consumption and Energy generation.

Video parts 1 through 4 of Arithmetic, Population and Energy by Al Bartlett on the impossibility of exponential growth on a finite planet

Video parts 5 through 8 of Arithmetic, Population and Energy by Al Bartlett on the impossibility of exponential growth on a finite planet

Our only real chance is to develop into decent human beings imho.

about that Africa aids thing...

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