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To: chowder who wrote (21822)	11/2/2025 3:04:52 PM
From: cemanuel	Respond to of 23248

The folks who saw it said she jumped. Then I saw a report this morning that said it was a male crew member.

To: chowder who wrote (21822)

11/3/2025 1:40:51 AM

From: Chairo Kiisu Ichiro

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Respond to of 23248

[ You don't fall off that ship unless you mean to. ]

=> Agreed.

However, sometimes a jumper has assistance.[1]

Not familiar with the details of the incident nor that particular ship, but was a semi-regular ship passenger between Hakodate and Aomori -- long before the completion of the Seikan Tunnel.[2]

'Cause the means of conveyance doesn't change human nature not every adverse incident is an accident.[3]

Best wishes,

Kiisu
1. ht tps://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/09/11/mans-overboard-death-may-be-linked-to-davie-unsolved-murder/

. ht tps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_George_Smith

. ht tps://orangecountyda.org/press/former-attorney-convicted-of-strangling-ex-wife-throwing-body-overboard-during-mediterranean-cruise/

2. [ By total length, the Seikan Tunnel is the world’s longest undersea tunnel, surpassing even the Channel Tunnel (although the latter has a longer undersea section). ] ht tps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seikan_Tunnel

3. Unless broken, a long chain of poor decisions will cascade into tragedy. Examples include the notorious NASA disasters as well as numerous events from elsewhere/elsewhen, one such being the sinking of the Sewol.
. ht tps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_MV_Sewol

It's not a new problem. "For the Want of a Nail" alludes to similar cascading causes and disasters.
. ht tps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_want_of_a_nail

Fortunately for all of us, Vasily Arkhipov broke the chain of events that would have converted the Cuban missile crisis into a US/Soviet nuclear war.

[ At the time of the crisis, Arkhipov was serving as chief of staff of a Soviet submarine flotilla and was aboard the submarine B-59 as executive officer. Launch authorization required the agreement of all three senior officers. When U.S. forces dropped depth charges near the submarine, its captain and the political officer believed war had begun and prepared to launch a nuclear torpedo against United States Navy ships. Arkhipov refused, and his decision prevented the use of nuclear weapons. ]
. ht tps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov