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Strategies & Market Trends : The Millennium Crash -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: posthumousone who wrote (2283)2/26/1998 10:41:00 AM
From: Arik T.G.  Respond to of 5676
 
Gary,

I'd like to thank you for your contributions to this thread.

>>Whats a 500 point drop if it bounces right back?

I'm not talking about a 500 points drop.
A succession of -300 to -600 points down days will mark the
beggining of the biggest bear of this century. Second only to the South sea bubble.

>> Buy on the dips.

The dipsters will be the worst off.
A great strength of character is needed to buy on the
fall and sell even lower on the next day.
I'll bet 99% of the dipsters will be stuck with the paper, hoping
for a rebound that'll never happen.

>>Question, even after the 87 crash, didn't it bounce back relatively quickly?

'87 wasn't a crash of historical magnitude.
Two years later the Dow was higher then before the crash. It was a hiccup in the 15 years bull run. A minor blip on the 69 years bull chart, almost unnoticeable looking at the chart of the last two centuries.

Got to go. Will post again Friday.

ATG



To: posthumousone who wrote (2283)2/26/1998 3:13:00 PM
From: Mike M2  Respond to of 5676
 
Gary, you raise many issues some of which I will address for now because it is difficult to cover it all concisely. Later I will post some links to article which have influenced my thinking. 1987 one major difference is valuations P/E, BV ,dividend yield, mkt cap as a % of GDP clearly show a market which is much more overvalued than in 1987. Another factor is public participation is greater-who is left to perpetuate the trend now that virtually everbody is in the mkt -to whom will they sell. Here are a few links for valuation # lfcity.com fiendbear.com Another factor is debt levels are much higher home.att.net Another interesting read is investmentrarities.com I have found many useful articles at gold-eagle.com You can appreciate that as the market rises higher the steady flow of boomer money has less impact to quote John K. Galbraith "sometime, sooner or later,confidence in the short-run reality of increasing stock prices would weaken. When this happened, some people would sell , and this would destroy the reality of increasing values. Holding for an increase would become meaningless; the new reality would be falling prices. There would be a rush pell mell, to unload. This was the way past speculative orgies had ended . it was the way the end came in 1929. it is the way speculation will end in the future. " JKG "The Great Crash" pp 174-5 . trading curbs can only slow the decline but cannot stop it. Derivatives have probably helped the mkt go higher but will one day cause it to go lower than would be otherwise. there is an unbelievable amount of leverage out there- the carry trade, loan securitization, bank repos. Have to go. if you like i will post more links that I feel support the bearish position. I expect a minimum of 50% decline from the eventually top. mike



To: posthumousone who wrote (2283)2/26/1998 3:22:00 PM
From: Mike M2  Respond to of 5676
 
gary, another good link fame.org and usastores.com Mike



To: posthumousone who wrote (2283)2/26/1998 6:24:00 PM
From: yard_man  Respond to of 5676
 
>>I am looking for something to make me more cautious.<<

That's it -- the absence of something to make you cautious. That's when all heck usually breaks loose.