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To: maceng2 who wrote (793739)	11/28/2025 6:57:31 AM
From: Maple MAGA	3 Recommendations Recommended By aladin maceng2 Tom Clarke Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793914

At home, it’s strictly meat and potatoes for me,no bread and no sugar. I let myself indulge a little when I’m on the road, but otherwise I live a pretty Spartan lifestyle. Is this true? How is this possible? Why does it happen? "When I buy "freshly caught fish from the North Sea" in the local supermarket it is labelled at a product from China. i.e. the fish are frozen when caught, shipped to China for processing, and then returned to the UK for sale." Short answer: Yes, it’s true, and it happens more often than most people realize. And although it sounds insane at first glance, the reasons are surprisingly straightforward: labour costs, processing capacity, and globalized supply chains. Below is a clear breakdown of *why North Sea fish can be shipped to China, processed, and shipped back to the UK—and still be cheaper.* 1. Is it true? Yes. This practice has been documented for cod, haddock, and other whitefish caught in UK or EU waters. They are frozen at sea, shipped to China for filleting/processing, then shipped back to Europe for sale. This is not a myth. It's an established supply-chain practice used by many major supermarket suppliers. 2. How is this even possible? It is possible because processing fish is labour-intensive, and in the UK/EU labour costs are extremely high. Cost comparison (typical): UK fish-processing labour: £10–£15/hour China fish-processing labour: £2–£4/hour Cost of shipping a frozen container across the world: shockingly cheap (around £3,000–£5,000 for 25 tonnes) So even with the cost of: freezing on the trawler shipping ~8,000 miles to China processing shipping ~8,000 miles back to the UK …it is still cheaper for suppliers than paying European labour costs. Yes—the shipping cost is lower than the labour difference. 3. Why does it happen? Reason 1 — Labour costs Filleting fish by hand is still more efficient than using machines for many fish species. China has huge, experienced processing plants with very low labour costs. Reason 2 — Specialized processing facilities China built entire cities around seafood processing. They have: massive economies of scale huge freezing and packaging plants very fast turnaround The UK does not. Reason 3 — Frozen fish stays “fresh” Most commercial fish—especially cod—are frozen at sea within hours of being caught. This locks in freshness and makes long-distance shipping easy and safe. So transporting a frozen block of cod 8,000 miles does not harm the quality. Reason 4 — Supermarket price pressure UK supermarkets are extremely cost-competitive and squeeze suppliers hard. Suppliers therefore outsource processing to stay profitable. Reason 5 — Labeling laws Even if fish are caught in the North Sea, the label often says: “Product of China” “Processed in China” “Packed in China” This is because under many regulations, the country of substantial transformation must be listed — not the origin of the fish. 4. Does this reduce quality or safety? Not usually. The fish is frozen immediately at sea, processed while still frozen, and stays frozen until it hits the UK supermarket. The real trade-off is food miles and environmental impact, not health. 5. Why don’t supermarkets just process it locally? Because: wages energy costs lack of processing capacity large-scale automated plants don’t exist in the UK Chinese plants can process cod at a fraction of the cost It’s purely economics. Bottom Line It sounds absurd, but it’s a rational outcome of global economics: Fish caught off Scotland - frozen instantly - shipped to China - filleted cheaply - shipped back - sold as “North Sea fish.” Everything about it—cost, quality, logistics—makes financial sense for suppliers, even if it feels ridiculous to consumers.

To: maceng2 who wrote (793739)	11/28/2025 9:17:09 AM
From: J.B.C.	1 Recommendation Recommended By maceng2 Respond to of 793914

You should post those over at LindyBill’s health thread. I always suspected the honey fraud.

To: maceng2 who wrote (793739)	11/29/2025 5:48:13 AM
From: golfer72	3 Recommendations Recommended By Alias Shrugged maceng2 Old_Sparky Respond to of 793914

"What is the point of all this AI B/S if no one has a job and cannot afford a decent living? Capitalism needs to undergo a review. A big review. The corporate structure we currently live under is failing the human race." None of this is Capitalism. Corporatism yeah. And they dont want you to make a decent living. They want you dependent on the govt. Thats where UBI comes in. Add in the Social Credit scores and the last vestige of freedom is gone