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To: CentralParkRanger who wrote (6833)	12/4/2025 6:39:54 PM
From: kidl	Respond to of 7000

This seems to be more than a rumour. The source, "Der Spiegel", is known as a trustworthy source. One of many articles in the German media: Europeans probably deeply distrust the USA From t-online, jha 04.12.2025 - 14:29 o'clock Reading time: 3 min Donald Tusk, Volodymyr Zelensky, Emmanuel Macron, Keir Starmer and Friedrich Merz: They probably have deep doubts about the US negotiators. (Source: IMAGO/Lauren Hurley / Avalon) Publicly, the European heads of state praise the commitment of the USA in the Ukraine peace negotiations. But internally they express themselves quite differently. European heads of state have expressed clear reservations about the US in a telephone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Der Spiegel has a transcript that shows how strong the mistrust of the American negotiators is in the ongoing peace talks. Several participants also confirmed to the magazine that the switch had taken place; however, the individual quotes were not confirmed. Macron said: "There is a possibility that the US will betray Ukraine on the issue of territory, without clarity on security guarantees." For Zelensky there is "a great danger". According to the transcript, Chancellor Friedrich Merz added that Zelensky must be "extremely careful in the next few days". "They're playing games, both with you and with us," he said, probably referring to the two U.S. negotiators Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, Donald Trump's son-in-law. The switch took place on Monday, after Ukrainian security adviser Rustem Umjerov spoke with US negotiators and Foreign Minister Marco Rubio in Florida over the weekend. Publicly, the European heads of government had expressed themselves quite differently about the peace talks and repeatedly praised President Donald Trump's initiative. Further doubts of European leaders Finland's President Alexander Stubb also issued a warning in the Schalte, according to "Spiegel": "We must not leave Ukraine and Volodymyr alone with these guys." NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte agreed with him: "I agree with Alexander that we must protect Volodymyr." According to the report, Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk, Italy's Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen, Norway's Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre, EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and EU Council President António Costa also took part in the talks. Public restraint in Paris and Berlin However, the Élysée Palace denied that Macron had spoken of a possible "betrayal" by the US. "The president did not express himself in these words," it said on request. How Macron expressed himself according to the French account remained open. Macron had previously publicly praised the role of the US several times and said: "American mediation is taking place, this is a very good thing, it will now put pressure on Russia." The Federal Chancellery said it did not want to comment on "rumoured snippets of conversation". Merz has already publicly pointed out the importance of transatlantic cooperation. After the phone call in Berlin, he said that "the transatlantic community is being held together as best we can." Controversial issue frozen assets and role of the USA According to the transcript, the Europeans emphasized several times in the telephone call that the EU alone must decide on the Russian state assets frozen in Europe. Merz later wrote in a guest article that Europe "cannot leave the decision to other, non-European states." At the same time, the peace talks are continuing. Witkoff and Kushner also met Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday for a five-hour conversation. However, a meeting between the US negotiators and European security advisers, which had been considered in the meantime, did not take place. The negotiations continue to be dominated by a US plan with 28 points, which in its first version had gone a long way towards meeting Russian demands. Europeans and Ukrainians had then drawn up a counter-proposal and presented it in Geneva.