To: THE ANT who wrote (218277 ) 12/10/2025 4:29:10 PM From: TobagoJack Respond to of 219490 re nasa / moon, some changes requested ... per chinesey propaganda, either winging it or planning it, depending on PoVscmp.com Former Nasa chief calls for new US approach to moon landing – much like China’s Mike Griffin says Artemis programme ‘cannot work’ because of complex design and unproven tech, while Chinese are ‘doing the right things’ Ling Xin in Ohio Published: 9:00pm, 10 Dec 2025 A former Nasa administrator has warned that America’s plan to return astronauts to the moon is technically unworkable, urging a much simpler approach – similar to China’s – as the only realistic way to stay ahead. Mike Griffin, a 76-year-old aerospace engineer who led Nasa during the George W. Bush administration, told Congress that the Artemis programme “cannot work” because it relies on an overly complex design and many unproven technologies. Under the current plan, the Artemis III mission must refuel its gigantic lunar lander in orbit at least a dozen times and store super-cold propellants for long periods – among other technologies never demonstrated in space – in order to land two Americans on the moon in 2027. “The Artemis III mission and those beyond should be cancelled and we should start over,” Griffin said at a House hearing last Thursday. He urged lawmakers to switch to a more streamlined, mature dual-launch architecture that closely resembles the strategy China has embraced for its own moon landing. Mike Griffin led Nasa during the George W. Bush administration. Photo: Getty Images That architecture – which Griffin began advocating in 2010 after Nasa cancelled Constellation, an earlier attempt to return humans to the moon – uses two heavy-lift rockets to send the crew vehicle and lander separately into lunar orbit. Griffin, who has long warned of China’s rise in space , argued at the time that overly elaborate mission designs would slow down the US and allow China to steadily advance and eventually overtake it on the lunar frontier. “We have lost a lot of time, and we may not be able to return to the moon before the Chinese execute their own first landing,” Griffin said on Thursday. China has reaffirmed its goal of sending astronauts to the lunar surface before 2030. “To go to the moon is a very hard thing,” he said. “From all indications, China is doing the right things and doing them right.” Asked whether Nasa is on track to meet its current schedule, Griffin replied there was “no possible way” a crewed landing could happen in 2027 under the existing design. His pessimism was shared by other witnesses, including Dean Cheng of the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies, who said: “I am very pessimistic about our ability … so, no.” In recent months, US lawmakers have been increasingly told that without major changes, China will probably put astronauts on the moon before Nasa can do so under Artemis. The hearing, titled “Strategic Trajectories: Assessing China’s Space Rise and the Risks to US Leadership”, focused on how the agency could protect its leadership in space and whether Artemis could be improved and accelerated. Griffin argued that the programme had become too complex to succeed. He said the mission architecture stacked too many critical steps into a single landing attempt, creating a level of fragility that was unacceptable in human spaceflight.