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To: Heywood40 who wrote (1576336)12/11/2025 9:55:51 AM
From: Maple MAGA 1 Recommendation

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longz

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You’ve just explained healthy-user bias, which is exactly the point, and it actually undermines the conclusion you’re claiming.

What you described isn’t proof that the vaccine reduces all-cause mortality.

It’s proof that vaccination status is strongly correlated with lifestyle, income, risk-tolerance, and health-seeking behavior, and that these differences drive the mortality gap.

In other words, the study shows correlation, not causation.

If vaccinated people smoke less, exercise more, go to the doctor more often, avoid high-risk behaviour, follow health advice and have a high socioeconomic stability...

…then of course they’re going to have lower all-cause mortality than a group that statistically contains more smokers, more heavy drinkers, more risk-takers, more chronically ill individuals who distrust medicine, etc.

That’s exactly why epidemiologists call this residual confounding, and why the authors of the French study explicitly warn against interpreting the 25% lower all-cause mortality as a biological effect of the vaccine.

So your argument basically proves my point:

The vaccine reduces COVID mortality, no disagreement there.

The lower all-cause mortality in vaccinated populations is driven by lifestyle, behavior, and socioeconomic factors, not the shot.

If you’re saying vaccinated people are healthier, more cautious, more compliant with medical care, and more risk-averse in general…

Then you’re describing a different population, not a biological effect of the vaccine on car crashes, drownings, cancer, or tsunamis.

Thanks for helping clarify that.



To: Heywood40 who wrote (1576336)12/11/2025 11:46:16 AM
From: Tenchusatsu2 Recommendations

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Goose94
pocotrader

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Heywood,
I'm glad I was able to clear that up for you.
Excellent post. The brain is the primary organ in developing "natural immunity."

Tenchusatsu

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