To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1577491 ) 12/16/2025 1:22:23 PM From: i-node 1 RecommendationRecommended By longz
Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1578548 a) Musk represents his own companies, not the nation. b) Character counts. Musk lies. He has a record of overpromising and underdelivering. c) Typical MAGA to blame the Democrats for Trump's own failures. No personal responsibility, no connection to reality, no accountability whatsoever. All I hear is "Pelosi bad. Biden bad." No results, no consistent policy, and no long-term plans to reduce the deficit. Just a bunch of grandiose bullshit combined with Trump's "lead by the gut" style of "leadership." (a) Yes, he does. But Musk has two essential attributes. First, he is absolutely trustworthy: He's going to call it as he sees it and as we now know, even if it means considerable cost to himself and to his shareholders. Like very few others (JP Morgan comes to mind, William Knudson, and many others who had no need to drop everything to put the nation first). Enduring hate for having done so is worst than any financial hate. (b) I do not know of any Musk lies. I don't see him as "lying" in the sense that I have ever been misled by him. But I'm more astute on business matters than the average person. For example, his comment "Funding Secured"; it was actually the SEC showing its ass in a case where some idiots might have misunderstood the context. I do not take off-the-cuff comments about FSD timelines as "lies". They were certainly aspirational at many points along the way, but that is not the same as lying (which, by definition, is a question of intent and whether the intent to mislead was present). And often, what you might call lies (alleged false claims about non-citizen voting) turned out to be lies, but not by Trump -- in the end, it was the fucking media lying, and your Democrat party). And he made several mistakes while working at DOGE that plainly were lack of knowledge about antique computers, a mistake you might make as well if you had been there. If you haven't worked on those relics it might not occur to you that someone would ever have done things in those ways. The question is one of dishonesty. I don't see that in Musk.