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To: AK2004 who wrote (4627)2/27/1998 9:05:00 PM
From: Joey Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6843
 
Kumar not positive on AMD, to say the least...

IBM deal no panacea
for AMD
By Michael Kanellos
Staff Writer, CNET NEWS.COM
February 27, 1998, 12:30 p.m. PT

news analysis While a new
manufacturing alliance with IBM will
certainly help Advanced Micro
Devices (AMD) meet demand for its
K6 processors, a number of hurdles
remain in the path to greater
acceptance.

Chief among these is the question of
whether more major computer vendors
can and will expand the market for
AMD technology. AMD already has
deals with Compaq and IBM to supply
chips to their respective low-end
consumer models, but although these
relationships could expand, neither
company has committed to using the
K6 in the lucrative business PC
segment.

Other major manufacturers appear
unwilling to adopt the chip. Moreover,
Digital, one of AMD's larger vendors,
will likely dissolve its computer
division when that company gets
merged into Compaq.

The deal will most probably serve as a
way for AMD to gain valuable
manufacturing technology, which will
see the light of day in 1999.

"Hewlett-Packard is definitely not
going to be rushing toward it. Dell?
Never. Gateway? Doubtful," said
Ashok Kumar, semiconductor analyst
with Piper Jaffray.

Executives at HP and Dell have
previously echoed such sentiments.

Further, the IBM-produced K6 chips
won't be geared for profit. The K6
costs about $40 for AMD to produce,
but the same chip will cost around $50
at the IBM factory and will have to sell
for around $75, said Kumar. The
processors will be hitting the market at
about the same time arch-rival Intel
releases a high-performance, low-cost
Pentium II chip, code-named
Mendocino, which will sell for around
$110.

K6 processors are on par with
high-end Pentium and mid-range
Pentium II processors in performance.

The deal seems likely to give AMD's
manufacturing technology a strategic
boost. This quarter, AMD shifted more
of its manufacturing to the 0.25-micron
process, an additional hurdle that even
AMD has said will not be easy to
master. While AMD's success or
failure with mass manufacturing chips
on the 0.25-micron process won't be
known for a few weeks, IBM has
resources that will help the company
improve these transitions, said Kumar.

Manufacturing processes that yield
smaller circuits allow AMD to
produce faster chips. Smaller
processes, however, are difficult to
achieve. AMD will eventually move
its 0.25 process to a smaller 0.18
process. The Sunnyvale,
California-based chipmaker will be
shifting to the 0.18-micron technology
for its next-generation K6 "3D +", due
in mid-1999.

AMD has failed over the past few
quarters to manufacture
Intel-compatible K6 processors in the
quantities that PC vendors demand.
The problems have centered around the
company's inability to produce
sufficient number of high-performance
chips, which are in higher demand than
the low-performance chips that are in
greater supply.

This in turn has prevented the company
from taking market share away from
Intel. Intel is an investor in CNET: The
Computer Network.

A shift to IBM could not only boost
production of the chip but, maybe more
important, improve manufacturing
efficiencies, referred to as chip
"yields," also a thorn in AMD's side.

"They are a reasonably large [chip]
supplier and have a propensity to
manufacture for others," said Mark
Edelstone semiconductor analyst for
Morgan Stanley.

"It will have limited impact in 1998,"
he said prior to the announcement.
More of the impact would occur in
1999.

The agreement with IBM spans two
years. According to AMD, IBM is
expected to begin making the chips
starting in the third quarter.

Interestingly, IBM has a history with
the K6 although it only started inserting
the chip in its own computers late last
year. IBM served as the chip foundry
for NextGen, which AMD acquired in
early 1996; NextGen's processor
became the basis of the first K6 chips.
IBM has also been making the
packaging, the plastic shell that
surrounds the microprocessor core and
is synonymous with the look and feel
of the chip, for the K6.



To: AK2004 who wrote (4627)2/27/1998 9:38:00 PM
From: James Yu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6843
 
Albert,
Here is a good news and we will see the so called "bah bah bah..." experts to say...

AMD, IBM Ink Two-Year K6 Production Deal
SUNNYVALE, CALIFORNIA, U.S.A., 1998 FEB 27 (Newsbytes) -- By Craig
Menefee, Newsbytes. Advanced Micro Devices [NYSE:AMD] has turned to IBM [NYSE:IBM] for help making AMD-K6 microprocessors. The two-year foundry agreement was announced Friday morning by AMD.
IBM plans to commence with K6 wafer starts in the third quarter of this year, AMD said. Volume retail shipments of devices using the IBM-built K6 processors will begin sometime in the fourth quarter, if all goes as planned. "It'll be just in time for Christmas, which could work out to be a great deal," remarked AMD's Scott Allen, speaking with Newsbytes.
AMD said IBM will "somewhat augment" the AMD Fab 25 chip-making plant in Austin. The plant has received wide coverage because of AMD's seeming inability to eliminate stubborn yield problems there. Low yields caused the firm to miss its 1997 production targets and
reportedly delayed some deliveries. Retail channels hate that.
Asked if those problems had influenced AMD to sign the foundry deal,
Allen said AMD won't discuss the state of its Fab 25 plant until the next quarterly report, due April 7.
Of the current deal, Allen declared: "This is a straight foundry deal that increases K6 capacity. It enables us to satisfy demand and advance K6 in the marketplace."
Despite yield problems, AMD beat analysts' predictions in mid-January
by posting only a $12.3 million loss on $613.2 million revenues. Its
last quarterly revenues grew by 23 percent over the same quarter in
1996 and units shipped were reportedly up even more.
IBM spokesperson Bill O'Leary told Newsbytes the K6 chips will be
produced in the firm's primary production fab in Burlington, Vermont, which has established a very good history with quarter-micron chips.
He said the IBM-made AMD chips are not slotted for IBM products, even though the firm has announced several K6-based Aptiva consumer PCs (Newsbytes, August 19, 1997).
"Where the processors go will be strictly up to AMD," O'Leary added.
O'Leary told Newsbytes that adding K6 production to the Burlington
plant will not affect IBM's current production deal with Cyrix. As a
straight foundry deal, he explained, the arrangement bears no
resemblance to the deal under which IBM makes, brands and markets
processors that use Cyrix designs.

One industry watcher speculated to Newsbytes the AMD foundry deal could be a tentative advance toward a deeper relationship between the two firms. He cited IBM's trouble-free 0.25-micron Burlington production facility as one engineering benefit that could flow to AMD if the two firms move closer in the future. He also speculated IBM might be partly motivated by a need for a "Plan B" should the recent buyout of Cyrix by competitor National Semiconductor start to cause problems.
National Semi was reported yesterday as having signed a microprocessor
production deal with Taiwan Semiconductor. That deal presumably includes Cyrix designs.
Newsbytes notes IBM's new copper-circuit chip technology could also greatly benefit AMD, since it opens the way to much faster clock speeds with no immediate need to reengineer circuits or drop below a quarter-micron feature size.
Also, IBM plans a $700 million chip development facility in New York that will use the copper processes on 12-inch silicon wafers. By contrast, current designs use aluminum circuits on 8-inch wafers (Newsbytes, November 18, 1997).
Larger wafers would greatly increase yield-per-wafer figures while dropping production costs. Neither firm would speculate openly on the possibilities of deepening their relationship.
Remarked Allen: "Obviously, IBM is a great company. They have
state-of-the-art capacity in microelectronics and excellent process
technology. Of course we'll continue exploring ways for the two
companies to cooperate." He added: "We've had a great relationship with IBM for years."

Reported by Newsbytes News Network: newsbytes.com .
(19980227/Press & Reader Contact: Scott Allen, AMD, 408-749-3311

Best wishes

James