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To: gregor who wrote (581)2/28/1998 12:54:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker  Respond to of 1283
 
Oh, Gregor, yes I wanted to respond to your post on what you were seeing from beloved Peter's writing.

I am obsessed with the Templar Brothers now and was very disappointed that the very logical explanation of why this is so important to bring to light got lost. The devil knows me so very well. Of all of the things on Earth I do hate and react to, losing good introductions to a very difficult subject is something I almost cannot do twice. It's hard enough to do once. Anyway, that's interesting when I think of how much introductory expository "works" that were really right on and there were somehow lost and never redone. Interesting. Must combat that habit of getting mad and forgetting it.

Your scriptures posted were more interesting this time. I saw how faith is not of ourselves. We don't dream it up, work it up, exercist it up, practice it up. Apparently Peter was explaining that faith is the product of receiving the Lord Jesus Christ as Savior, with all of the unexplainable implications.

It is part of the package. We don't have to even think about it--
JUST DO IT. IT COMES WITH THE PACKAGE.

That would explain why prayers prayed by backslidden bores will be answered if prayed correctly. Ask the Father in the name of the Son, Jesus Christ, and believe that through the miracle of the Holy Spirit the Father, Son and Holy Spirit will bring the prayer to pass. It is most certainly nothing of our miserable selves that has any cause whatsoever upon anything. Of that we can be sure. And all other philosophy is of satan, who then causes the reaction "vibed for" so the poor fools will go further into the spider web for more of the wonderful power "they" are now commanding.
It is unspeakably evil and pathetic.

So, faith is a gift received with our salvation.

Then it comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.

That is so simple, yet is mindblowing to spend time on just those exact words.

Anyway, the second verse was also amazing to me and I saw something new. I'll have to pull it up.

Basically, about the Templar brothers. What is the whole thing in a nut shell about them. I was wondering that. Then I realized something. If you were satan, and all you had was Charles Manson, Bundy, Hitler, and the 6,000 year assortment of depraved and morally disgusting human mutants you had produced, would you like to hold them up as a reason to follow you, or would you engineer something in history for the end time which was so incredible it still has the legacy of being the Crime of the Millenium in history?

That you would take perhaps the most astounding examples of Christian devotion of all of the various decades, and work to destroy their memory in history, but then somehow revive it as, yes, they were astoundingly unusually wonderful in many ways, and much like you all read about in history that has not been capable of being totally erased and buried in the Vatican vaults where 99% of it STILL remains, and simply state that of course these men were the most admirable of all possible men in all ways -- BUT. They actually were a product of SATAN, and only masqueraded as products of Christ.

That, like the New Agers readying the world for the satanic messiah, who will come as an imposter of Jesus Christ with a gospel of depravity and evil all being good and acceptable, also it was necessary for the devil to control the highest possible standard set by normal living men who now are buried in history as "Templars."

That is the best I can reconstruct it, and that is why it is necessary, and that is why the devil uses them in every single book pointing to the possiblity that the satanic anti-Christ might actually come from a Jewish family in France, per Ken's bewildered experience, and why the Masonic order, granted an evil and bizarre organization, uses the Poor Knights of the Temple to entice the fools into the spider web a little farther.

Beyond that, it's Saturday morning, and we should try to keep life light and happy at least for Saturday morning.

:)

I'm trying to get a world web site on this subject, and if you knew where it might go, you would see that it is important.

Do NOT read the web sites on the Templars. They are like the vampire sites. They literally are so twisted and evil that I get a queasy feeling and literally become spiritually nausiated at the extent of the kingdom of evil and its power to change history to that extent, and the monstrous web of evil it has had to have to do it for 700 years. Trust me here. Don't go to the Templar websites. I believe most of them are put there by satanists.

The only books, Ken and Grant, to go near on this subject at first until you really understand what the order was is by some guy named Howard, it's very good, but the best read in the world is the factual history set down by John Robison or Robinson, Dungeon Fire and Sword. The best quick factual study of the order is Burnam, Burnham or something like that in the religious section called "The Knights of God". My first book I ever read. I was just curious because I didn't know there were knights of God and knew nothing about Templars except that I vaguely remembered they were something a little evil.

Where you find a lot about the era they spawned, to a certain extent, is all of the history on the Age of Saints--1100-1300 (interestingly,
the era of the Templars.

Then, more interestingly, should you doubt there is anything there, Europe flourished in all ways for the 200 years under the reign of the Templars and Teutonic KNights in Europe and the Knights of St. Johnin Spain. Actually, look at it. Very little war, ect., all went on fighting the advancing muslims and taking back the Holy City lest it become totally Muslim.

in 1314 the last were burned alive, all others ceased in history, except for regulated Teutonics and St. John knights. by 1317 there was a two year famine which was so severe, and the effects so devasting, that the Black Plague which a few years later and raged for almost 10 years, I guess, it's all in the Time Warner World Atlas of History in time maps even a kid can read, is laid at the feet of this 2 year famine. That Europe simply couldn't recover.

And as for France, it was the ruler of the world under the Templars.
Soon after it was in the 100 years war, the this war, the that war, and
only rich psychotic kings and starving people until the French Revolution, and that sure was a party. Then the fun of WWI and then the joys of WWII and they apparently just got a reprieve in the late l900's from it all.

All of this just grabbed from memory, no, I'm not looking in books and verifying dates of the plagues, believe the 100 years war raged for 100 years after, as did all other wars, and basically France ended up in its face and destroyed, period. It just all basically what happened as I ramble about it.

So, vengence is mine, sayeth the Lord. France did find that out.

Anyway, aethiests would try and rip this apart. Would love to get into this with an aethiest, anyway.



To: gregor who wrote (581)3/2/1998 10:38:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker  Respond to of 1283
 
What is most interesting, I didn't tell you about. The meeting is very precious, as it is very real, and these are hard core potential you name it kids. They have homes, but have thrown their lives early to the wild side--never a good idea at any age....

:)

Rather an incredibly poor one, and proven to be the road to ruin, as we all know.

One of the girls had been gone a long time--several had and had just come back that night, so it seemed a divine gathering as it went on.

The prayer go totally Azusa Street, and I could hardly believe it, and then this very young girl who had been praying for everyone said that she very much needed prayer and started crying, and it went into a solid hour finding out what was going on with her.

Apparently she had fallen in with satanists and she said she couldn't stand living with the demons in her head and couldn't get them out and kept getting up to run away, and it was NOT an act. I know acts. This was not.

She wouldn't say who or how, and after I left I got the most strange feeling that she was one of the internet victims. But she is paralyzed by a spirit of fear, and almost fears for her life now if she repents. She said, "You just don't understand--I went too far, I went beyond where I should go" or something like that, and I felt she had made certain oaths. We kept asking her who, that under no circumstances would she have gone looking for that stuff herself, and then she would just start crying again. I think the internet is more of a threat than we have dreamed thus far.

I had to leave, but the kids stayed there with her and they continued praying after she seemed more ready to talk about it.

So, remember that, please. This is about as serious as a New York Heart Attack, which is even more serious than a plain heart attack.
I simply can no longer put in words the serioiusness of any of it, this girl, the plight of the creation, the imploding world around us, because Gregor, it has all passed over the line now. You know that.

Everytime I try to convince myself it must be my imagination, I have a new round of reality shocks from all fronts. I believe all that is left is for the crowd in heaven that John saw suddenly assembled, and then the long patient Angel will mix the ball of fire of God's wrath with incense (of the saints), and throw the flaming ball on Earth. That is after the l/2 hour of mourning by all who were so assembled.

My catholic aunt, now in her 80's and very hip and her mind is still as young as ever, believes it is coming very soon. I called her in Arizona today. She said right before I hung up, "well, we just may be seeing each other very soon", and she is very saintlike in her thoughts, and is very close to God since the death of her husband several years ago, and I trust her feelings about everything. She said that twice, and that from the Holy Spirit. And her health is excellent, and she has no thoughts of human death right now, believe me.

Too bad there wasn't some post trib theorist around to set her straight.
Certainly not I, sir. No, no. Not me.

:)

And I must make a disclaimer that I honestly pray this humble statement of my Aunt's belief in a catching up will not bring on the post tribbers in great force.

:)
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