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To: Richard S. Schoenstadt who wrote (12096)3/2/1998 5:03:00 PM
From: C.K. Houston  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 31646
 
<But even so it strikes me that if this post is true 2/3 of the plants have already started and somebody is doing the work for 2/3 of the plants.>

<Either in house or contracted out.>
<Who is that?>
<It doesn't appear to be Tava.>

Richard,

You're WRONG again. Two-thirds of the utilities have DEFINITELY not started working on Y2K yet. UNFORTUNATELY

If anyone wants to see what I've put together on my Utilities research for friends/family:

Email me at: Quest@hypercon.com
Subject: Utility Research

I only have this in Word 97 format. I'm glad to share all of my work, but you can only access it with Word 97. No exceptions. I wish I could offer it in other formats, but I don't have time.

Someone posted a Word 97 reader (like Adobe Acrobat Reader), but I can't recall what the URL is.

Cheryl



To: Richard S. Schoenstadt who wrote (12096)3/2/1998 5:30:00 PM
From: John Mansfield  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 31646
 
Hi Richard,

<<
When I see a post like this I wonder why nobody asks who is doing the work for the 3000 who are on schedule - even if they aren't done yet.
And who is doing the work for the 3000 who have started and are behind schedule.
>>
You have raised some interesting point; to which I would like to react.

I expect most of those utilities to be involved with remediation of their mainframe apps and other IT software. Reading many posts on many different discussion boards (some of them I have posted on SI) made me make this conclusion.

The non-IT (i.e. embedded systems) Y2K issues only recently got any attention (just search on e.g. www.altavista.digital.com for Y2K NEAR embedded; you will only a very limited number of hits. also the number of sites involved in embedded systems y2k is relatively very limited. Look at the things posted on the 'embedded' thread; I am sure you will get the idea.).

On the EPRI as a possible competitor issue:

- first of all EPRI is not a commercial enterprise; and is not organised for a very rapid development of a complete toolset and database.

- second; even IF they would put hundreds of engineers on developing such a toolset (which I doubt very much that they are doing right now); this would simply take time.
Just read the very famous article of Brooks on the 'Mythical Manmonth' about this issue (very much simplified stating : you can not take 9 women to get a baby in 1 months time); Brooks was the program manager of the system 360 development at IBM in the sixties, and therefore had hands-on experience with his 'Brooks-law'.
So it just takes time to develop a complete product; even if you put a whole army of programmers on it.

This is perhaps the most important reason why I have invested in TAVA: they have a huge lead over other potential competitors (b.t.w EPRI does not count as one for me); the deadline is absolutely immovable; making a competing product just takes time ; a time that can not be compressed by putting more engineers on the development (beyond some number of them).
So customers will go to the TAVA solution, it is that simple.

Regards,

John