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To: Steve Porter who wrote (49501)3/4/1998 10:36:00 PM
From: Fred Fahmy  Respond to of 186894
 
Steve

1) research which requires major computational power

<That's still UNIX turf until Merced then add 6 months for major computational products to be recompiled for Merced that's about 1.5 years (right on my schedule).>

This is true to a large extent, however, NT servers are making inroads and gaining share as we type.

2) large database/spreadsheet applications

<Define large.. big SQL databases yes, large spreadsheets yes.. but both are scenarios where one machine acts as an application or file server for maybe 10-200 (depending on application) so it's really a small % (although larger than 2 years ago granted).>

I have been working in a financial planning area of a large company for the last several years. We currently have P200's but people with older machines are upgrading to PII300's. We have large (2-20M) complex spreadsheets which are CPU hogs. Nothing like hitting "calc" and having to wait 30 seconds. Doesn't sound like a lot of time but it definitely adds up over time.

3) vastly increasing numbers of servers to drive the internet and intranets

<I disagree.. until the ability to get content into homes faster, most servers are now capable of supplying ample processing power.. the IO subsystems are what need more speed.. not the CPUs..even then most server won't be upgraded for at least 1 year in most situations.. so again we are close to my intial time frame.>

I wasn't talking about upgrading I was talking about new machines being added to the networks as more and more users come on line. I can't imagine IT managers who need more servers opting for anything less than a PII based machine.

5) presentation graphics

<Not sure what you mean here but a P166MMX notebook with 80MB has always sufficed for me..here HD space is even more important than CPU power IMHO.>

I guess it depends are you software and the complexity of the diagrams, charts, tables, graphs, etc. of the presentation. Which brings up another point....printing. In many situations printing complex pages improves with a faster CPU.

I'm not saying that for a lot of people PII isn't overkill, but in our company those people get the hand-me-downs as the power users get new PC's. Also, the number of people using PC's just for Lotus Notes and E-mail is larger than those requiring more power, but the number of power users is not a "small" percentage and is not decreasing in terms of percentage or absolute users.

FF



To: Steve Porter who wrote (49501)3/5/1998 2:00:00 AM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Steve - Re: "Not sure what you mean here but a P166MMX notebook with 80MB has always sufficed for me.. here HD space is even more important than CPU power IMHO."

Is that a Pentium MMX 166 notebook computer - an Intel Pentium?

Paul - Who knows Cyix/NSM doesn't rule Notebooks!



To: Steve Porter who wrote (49501)3/5/1998 3:42:00 AM
From: Skeeter Bug  Respond to of 186894
 
steve, the arguements made by these guys is that the 1-3% of the market has to have intel's leading chip. the bottom line is that intel is not intel b/c of 3% of the market.

denial. it is more than just a river in egypt ;-)

still can't get over using q3 to q4 comparisons over yty comparisons. what a joke ;-)