*Slightly off topic*
You can actually track 20 European satellites? Can you provide us with a little more detail (countries, price, etc.)? Is this C-Band, KU-Band equipment or both? How do you like B.Sky.B? Can you receive DMX (Digital Music Expresss)?
Michael,
Yup, N. Europe is well covered. In fact we are way ahead of you guys in terms of Hi-power DBS. I've been a Sat enthusiast for 7 years, and some people I know have been in this game for 10+. Digital hasn't yet taken off in Europe in the same way that it has in the US, but there's a couple of good reasons for that - (i) the European market is relatively conservative and we're all waiting for the standards to standardise (combining terrestial digital), (ii) we have only "relatively" recently embraced "analogue" DBS, and are in no hurry to bin this kit. The competitive situation is very different over here - we did not have the cable infrastructure that you guys have. In fact, the current competitive situation is almost the complete opposite of the US. When Sky started, it only had 4 terrestial channels as competition (i.e. cable didn't exist !). The only other competition was a second DBS operator - BSB. After a few unprofitable years, Sky bought BSB to become the only broadcaster - renamed BSkyB. This then got to a breakeven point, and very quickly thereafter became a cash cow. In this respect, BSkyB is almost a monopoly in competition to the terrestial channels (now 5 off !), and it is cable that is now struggling to establish itself in the face of an "established" infrastructure.
So, here I am in Cambridge, virtually at 0 degrees, with a 4' dish and can track most things between about 30E and 35W. This includes 20+ orbital locations, and >30 satellites. (There is a lot of co-locating in Europe as competetition for locations is intense - Astra, who own the satellites that BSkyB use, have 6 sats in one position !)
The bands I cover used to be called Ku, FSS and Telecom, but the terminology is now getting blurred - it's basically about 9.5 - 12.5GHz. C-band was only ever a fanatic's technology over here and never really caught on.
My system uses a multi-band LNB on the front of a Pace multi-sat receiver (i.e. a basic satellite receiver plus the motor control to move the dish). I have two decoders - Videocrypt (for the analogue channels) and D2MAC (for the semi-analogue channels). Other decoders would allow me to get the digital channels, and DMX (the music channels you mentioned).
In total I guess I have access to 300+ channels, though lots of these are in foreign languages - German, Nordic, French, Italian, Spanish, Japanese, etc.,
I have NEVER been a BSkyB subscriber - I'm a staunch BBC supporter ! (Though do respect the business acumen that the Murdoch empire has shown to establish the most successful DBS venture in Europe - even though it has done so by appealing to the lowest common denominator !)
Sat equipment (analogue) costs <$100 for a basic fixed-location unit to around $2000 for hi-end multi-sat. A reasonable multi-sat is around $800. The digital systems currently available are around $500, though once the roll-out really starts to happen this'll probably be around $350.
Interestingly, the two companies that have the best respected multi-sat equipment over here are Chapparal (US !) and Echostar..... (A few years ago I nearly spent about $1000 on an Echostar receiver but news of PSU unreliability dissuaded me - Their equipment on the whole is reasonably well thought of).
In this respect I can at least confirm that Echostar have years of proven experience in the DBS game.
I think that answers all your questions (and probably bores the pants off all the non-enthusiasts !).
The way I look at it, launching a successful DBS venture is a game for head-cases. It's a high-risk venture that only a crazy man would attempt. I guess that makes DISH kinda fortunate !
There are years of struggle. Lots of doubts, and a very good chance that you'll go bust, or have to merge to be successful.
HOWEVER, the US market is much larger than Europe. You guys are used to watching crap, and the possibility of digital transmission can at least address the communications deficiencies in this respect..... (it can't fix the programmes !). This gives it a good justification. You also have the fact that the cable-culture prevails, is far from perfect, and could benefit from some "quality" competition. This seems to me like a tremendous opportunity.
I think there is room for 2, possibly 3, DBS companies in the US market, and it seems that DISH could be the number 2. I WOULD NOT BE AT ALL SUPRISED TO HEAR OF A MERGER WITH PRIMESTAR, who seem to be in trouble........ (Actually I'd love to see DISH succeed without a merger, but wonder just how deep the pockets are of their backers short-term).
And, then, of course, you have to remember that the British ALWAYS back the under-dog !
Mark (long DISH)
p.s. If you want to know more about European satellites, channels, etc checkout - satcodx.com
p.p.s. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN THESE DAMN END-OF-YEAR RESULTS ARE DUE OUT ! |