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Gold/Mining/Energy : American Eco (ECGOF, ECX on Toronto exchange) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Frederick Langford who wrote (1978)3/5/1998 5:27:00 PM
From: Carl Santavicca  Respond to of 2841
 
Lesson's learned with this one. Take the rose colored glasses off because the street is smarter. I guess the quick hit would have been nice, now I will just hold it for awhile.



To: Frederick Langford who wrote (1978)3/5/1998 5:29:00 PM
From: david james  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 2841
 
Finally Mike said
Increased revenues by 89%
Increased pre tax earnings by 142%
Increased basic earnings/share by 33%

Based on the numbers alone - we should go up tomorrow - but of course, we will go down because of the expectations that they gave us.
David



To: Frederick Langford who wrote (1978)3/5/1998 5:29:00 PM
From: Hunter Vann  Respond to of 2841
 
Did Mike or anyone else come out and say specifically that American Eco will make $1.20?(seriously, I'm not sure). I was under the impression that they simply stated, "they were comfortable with the estimates." Intel, just 6-8 weeks ago said that revenue was probably going to be flat in the 1st quarter of '98. Well, they revised that statement yesterday, as I'm sure you're well aware. Did they lie? Not sure. Was it an honest mistake? Not sure...



To: Frederick Langford who wrote (1978)3/5/1998 5:34:00 PM
From: Raymond James Norris  Respond to of 2841
 
Hunter, They lied, how could you have known that?

I think he's referring to the stock action as of late being not as glorious as it could be.

As for them lying, no they didnt. I was very disappointed that 1.20 was not met but they never "lied" and this talk about lawsuits is inane. No one here can produce a written form or recorded message where Mike or management said 1.20 would be met. All we have are these "comfortable" levels and "grins on their faces" talk - all of which is perfectly legal in this free market system.

How will the stock react? Probably like everyone here predicted. It's going to get hit tomorrow. Hopefully it'll recover towards the end of the day but there's no question the stock price won't come out unscathed. What I find very disturbing is not that the stock will go down but the company remains undervalued. Regardless of how you trade/invest in this stock, this company is still far below its industry averages and peers. If you don't plan to hold this one longer than "long term," then you probably shouldn't be in it.

We still have triple digit growth in EPS, Revenues, and Earnings before Taxes, Depreciation, etc. Triple digit growth isn't bad, it just wasnt as high as most were expecting.

Granted, the stock will fall, but it still remains undervalued. At one point in time, I can assure you its p/e will come into line with its industry. When that day will be? I have no idea. I only know I'll be a very happy camper then....

Conservatively Yours,
Raymond J. Norris



To: Frederick Langford who wrote (1978)3/5/1998 5:39:00 PM
From: Bruce Rogers  Respond to of 2841
 
>>>>>>Guess that takes care of my condescending critics<<<<<<

Don't count on it. A number of the posters on this board have shown that facts mean nothing to them--promises and hope for the future are what keeps them going.