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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Krowbar who wrote (17914)	3/6/1998 1:22:00 AM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 108807

Del!!! What a pleasant surprise to have you back. I had assumed that dirty old lady librarian had pulled you behind the book stacks and had her nasty way with you, and you were still recovering from the experience, or something. I hope you are not really ill or anything? Do you have your new eyelids yet? I had heard about the complicity of the Catholic Church in France with the Nazis in World War II, because the current Pope has acknowledged it. I published the url recently, looked for it again but could not find it, but did find something interesting about a Protestant professor of religion in the San Francisco Bay Area who studies and lectures on Christian involvement in the Holocaust: shamash.org I believe the reason commonly given for the complicity in France is that the Nazi party was the rival of a political party the Catholic Church did not want to gain power--in other words, they supported the enemy of their enemy, which is sort of like the old saying that politics makes strange bedfellows, and obviously is not always the most ethical way to proceed. I would suspect, off the top of my head, that part of the sympathy the Christians gave the Nazis is because of the age-old bad feelings they had about the Jews, who were outcastes for the most part. I personally think that World War II was so traumatic as a world event, so painful to even think about or look into, that we are just now in a rapid phase of learning the truth about it. Also, the oldest Jewish survivors are nearing death, as are the Nazi officers, so there is a thrust for justice. I don't really want to talk about Michael, except to say that of course I will not bother him in any way by posting to him, or about him, unless he continues to misrepresent my views and say things that are untrue about me, or attack this thread simply because some of us have different beliefs and opinions than he does. I really sincerely hope that there is room at Feelings for Christians, Jews, rationalists, pagans, atheists and whoever else would like to be here. I am very serious about freedom of speech, and also respecting people's individual belief systems, and yet I enjoy discussing religious history and politics, so I hope we can all do those things without trampling individual feelings. We used to be able to do that here here in a very open way, and I am not sure why it seems to have changed so much.