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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (621)	3/8/1998 5:35:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Respond to of 1283

Bob, Which question do you want me to answer? How frustrating and fruitless discussion with me is? Or will you learn ? Learn what? Am I Seventh day adventist? Why do you want to know? In all of our past discussion we have had little success in the area of misunderstanding so I don't see the need to go back and forth with your sarcasm at this time. Why would the Lord make a special point of the dietary laws if all of the laws were gone? Paul goes on to say we have a moral obligation (law) to not offend a brother with our dietary practices in Romans 14 so in a way we are still required to have some self control at times. Some things did change and I respect them for their changes. Like He did not get rid of adultry because He changed it to include lust in the heart and murder is still wrong as you have said. The post I made about the Ark of the Covenant does not encourage anyone to trust the law but that God has kept the promises of Yeshua in the law. You have said that conversation with me is fruitless and frustrating so why don't you learn and leave me alone. You pour out sarcasm and then act like I am not being objective in your questions that have little value when they are coming from that sarcasm. If you speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love you are a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If you have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge and if you have faith that can move mountains but have not love, you are nothing. Nancy

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (621)	3/8/1998 5:49:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1283

I am enjoying this :-) How funny this really is. The last time Bob you an me had a problem I was directing myself to someone else on the Ask God thread but you felt it important enough to stick you head in through the window and give me a lecture, it seems like whenever me or my wife post anything your righteous self finds it important to correct everything we have an opinion on (she was not directing her thought's to you). What she posted is not going to jeopardize some ones salvation it was a harmless thought of what she felt. Some of you religious Freaks make me sick, I love God for he his a simple and loving God, maybe we should rename Ask God Ask Bob. Alan

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (621)	3/8/1998 6:28:00 PM
From: gregor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1283

Daer Bob: Could you please tell me if any of my comments on the Ark of the covenant confound you. I once thought that God dwelled in the Ark that being the way that He was able to dwell with His chosen people. That somehow, He was able to confine himself there in a comfortable manner, and satisfied His yearning to have a people. Now I know that the Ark was a meeting place. It was kept separate and apart from the people of God because it represented His holiness and His righteousness to a people that were far from holy OR righteous. How ludicrous to think that God would confine himself to a box. But just as man would never be able to measure up to God's holiness: also the Ark represents to me how mankind can not even measure up to a holy article that is used of God.( Then and Now ) We then would be doomed to see the face of God; this fact has not changed under the efficacy of grace. Just as Moses under the law was never permitted to see the face of God. So true would still be this precept. We are doomed to continuously and willfully sin under grace. The sufficiency of grace does not extend past the boundaries of the law. For if the law was severe in it's punishment; should punishment in the dispensation of grace be LESS severe. NAY. Every argument should be made that the penalty for repudiation of grace should be more severe. Just as each believer must decide in His own heart whom GOD is ; so must each believer decide whom we are; and I speak that collectively; as a Christian people. And, the mystery of the Ark; that I know many times confounds me; must be established . For not only the Ark was holy but also the altar and the cups and bowls and utincils that the high priest used were also holy; with just as great a penalty for touching these objects. I am holy, my hands and mind , and my feet are used for holy purposes. The holy spirit dwells within me, I speak in an unknown tongue. Would you be afraid to touch me? I know much about you. I know much about others on these threads. To be honest with you I WOULD be afraid to touch many of you; because God has said touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm. But a friendly touch , a hug, a handshake, a kind gesture; why of course. So where do I think the Ark is ? And of what significance does it still have.? I believe it has great significance. I believe it still exists. But there are other things that have a great significance to me, also. I have an old family bible, passed down for generations, I have a kneeling bench that my grandfather used for prayer, a dining room table where our family has said many an effectual prayer; These to me are my Ark, My meeting place; should I assume that they are MORE or LESS or AS Holy than the Ark of the Covenant ? In Christ ..gregor