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To: David Miller who wrote (9380)	3/10/1998 1:24:00 AM
From: Kashish King	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10836

Although Microsoft views Java as a long-term threat to Windows it is the imminent threat to Visual Basic which has them most concerned. I think somebody touched on the homogeneous nature of Java development which is so important to efficient development. That homogeneity has been completely lacking in the Visual Basic environment despite their best efforts. In general, Java developers work with Java components and services from top to bottom, not just from platform to platform. Microsoft's J++ is simply an attempt to separate Java the syntax from Java the component architecture and Java the application environment and it will take a concentrated, collaborative effort on the part of IBM, Sun and Oracle to see that they don't get away with it. If they don't support Java Beans then they are not a Java compliant tool and they should not be allowed to sell it as such.

To: David Miller who wrote (9380)	3/10/1998 2:50:00 AM
From: shane forbes	Respond to of 10836

David: RE: A step too far It seems to me that they stepped back when everyone else is stepping forward. I don't doubt that it will be a good product but I think your friend hit the nail on the head - it does not seem to me at least that this is what the market wants. Sure some people will be happy with the product but will most? I hope not. Unfortunately VJ++ will also be a part of their full development suite which will tightly integrate everything so there is a chance that it will gain wider acceptance. Nevertheless to me JAVA is much more than primarily a "Windows development platform" and I suspect that this cross platform development was a key selling point for JAVA. MSFT is taking a step backward with this and in the same way that there was howling from developers when MSFT would claim that it's only a language I suspect many developers will not be happy with what MSFT has done here. Or so I'll hope. At least initially there should be some stiff resistance. This still leaves BORL in good shape I think. Will be interested to see how the cognoscenti in the press comment on VJ++. Hopefully there will be plenty of dissenting voices. I'm pretty certain will be. Shane.