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To: tero kuittinen who wrote (9162)	3/10/1998 8:19:00 AM
From: Skeeter Bug	Respond to of 152472

tero, that is a very valid point. cdma must compete in the details b/c they are often more important than the generic differences to the consumer.

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (9162)	3/10/1998 10:52:00 AM
From: brian h	Respond to of 152472

Tero, At least it is a good start from your post. You now sound more like a reasonable Nordician. You did not distort the fact this time. Please continue to do so. As for your beloved NOKA leads in China, please be aware that China will buy NOKA or ERICY's phones. That said. Both NOKA and ERICY's conutries have to pay back something in return politically or economically. Other posts already told you about the government-back companies. It is true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just go to your Finland's streets. See how much imports were from China, Taiwan, Hong Gong. You may be right about China state-owned companies volume-purchasing your NOKA or ERICY handsets. That will only be good for some near-coast cities. Can NOKIA or ERICY cover the whole China? The answer is simple!!!! No!!!!!! China needs Wireless Local Loop phone booths, Globalstar wireless phone booths. Not your 35 colored NOKA "matured" phones. The facts that Great-Wall Enterprise volume purchased QCOM's CDMA phones (US $300 million) last year already told us something. This company is well connected politically in Beijing and Shang-hai China. It also owned satellite launch services and ground stations from Globalstar and Iridium. Hope you do more research on China and boast your NOKA victory later. I, for one, am a Chinese American. Brian H.

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (9162)	3/10/1998 7:02:00 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

Tero, some of my best friends are Finns. To coin a phrase. Not Neil and Tim Finns, but the real sauna-soaking McCoy [though they don't use the name McCoy]. I would take no pleasure in either Nokia or Finland going down the gurgler. I was making the point that the need to stay out of the gurgler is not a way of predicting success. Yes, cdmaOne handsets better have Chinese written on them. Efficient spectrum use and lower cost is no use if people can't read the screen. Don't set too much store by GSM being in the lead. Don't forget GSM did have a very big lead. That will take a little time to catch up on. Maybe 2 years. Don't forget that spectrum efficiency means base station efficiency which means lower call costs, with no quality loss, which means happier customers. cdmaOne electronic gizzards are not inherently more expensive than any other electronic gizzards. They have been initially, but don't be surprised when those costs drop steeply. 8 million GSM units sold in 1997 is a good start. 1200 million to go. For China anyway. That seems to leave room for cdmaOne to make up ground. Although Ramsey insists China is near down and out, we go on shipping them dollars and their economy goes on growing at about 10% per year. At 30 million GSM unit sales in 2000, that will still take 30 years to supply 75% of people. In 30 years, they might not all be so poor at 10% per year growth. It was surprising to read that the belt clip for the Q-phone was hopeless. Yes, all those little things have to be right and form a complete competitive consumer satisfying package. A clever chip is far from enough. I'd say Nokia will continue to do really well in all types of handset sales. Finland should do well too. I suspect Nokia would even benefit from cdmaOne sweeping the field as they would be in a position to get an increased market share of mobile telephony. Ericsson won't be. Mqurice

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (9162)	3/11/1998 11:23:00 AM
From: Walter Liu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Tero: You kept pressing these handset issues. They are important, but keep in mind there are other factors when a carrier sells a particular model or a particular technology. Do you know why Sprint PCS is the only carrier that sells SamSung and PCS Q-phones? Why Airtouch, Primco do not sell them? Have you seen a OKI CDMA phone? Have you seen a Nokia CDMA phone? Have you make a CDMA call from a OKI and Nokia phone? Do you know why OKI and Nokia CDMA phones are not offered to public? It is not the battery time and display of characters.