Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Non-Tech : Amati investors -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: riposte who wrote (30656)	3/11/1998 11:24:00 PM
From: pat mudge	Respond to of 31386

Steve -- All moot points now, even if they're true. (Which I doubt.) I spent the day in San Jose and saw the big "Texas Instruments" sign at Amati headquarters. The guard has definitely been changed. The DSL conference is rather small but from what I heard from those I talked to, there's lots of energy and contracts are being signed. I stopped by Motorola's booth and congratulated the guys there on finally announcing CopperGold. I guess they're promising shipments in Q3. That makes Debbie Salle's "soon" over a year in coming. (Would hate to be her husband.) Ah, well, you have to laugh. Cheers! Pat

To: riposte who wrote (30656)	3/12/1998 11:48:00 PM
From: pat mudge	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 31386

Bell Canada and ISPs: remember the good ol' days when this would have generated a multi-part debate??? <<< ISP group announcement/BCE's Bell Canada Reuters Story - March 12, 1998 14:38 ISP GROUP INCORPORATES, HOLDS MEETING TO DISCUSS COMPETITION ISSUES WITH BELL CANADA TORONTO, March 12 /CNW/ -- Ontario/Quebec ISPs are angry at their treatment by Bell Canada, and have incorporated an industry group, Responsible Internet Service Companies (RISC) to function as a networking/watchdog and lobby organization. "RISC is actually more than two years old," says John Nemanic, one of RISC's founders, and the president of one of Toronto's largest independent ISPs, Internet Direct. "Originally, we came together to fight a proposed Bell rate hike that would have raised our monthly costs by some 300%. Our relationship with Bell appeared to improve for a while, but we're suddenly faced with delays and bungled installations, just before we hear of a radical Bell marketing plan that targets our core customers." Nemanic charges that Bell has not been dealing with the ISP industry in good faith. "We're not the only company to face this kind of hassle," he says. Nearly 20 ISPs were represented at the meeting, with still more participating via letters, e-mail and fax. Lorien Gabel of Interlog spoke about his experiences with Bell and ADSL. "Six months ago, Bell filed a tariff for dealing with ISPs and ADSL, which comes out to about $200," says Gabel. "Sympatico is offering the service for about $70.00. We have formed an ISP group to specifically target the ADSL issue. We will be approaching the Competition Bureau, politicians and the CRTC to make our case that this kind of pricing is cross-subsidization, predatory in nature, and is an unfair advantage. Bell Canada has been permitted to do this because of a lack of vigilance on the part of Canadian regulators to ensure that basic telephone users are not subsidizing Internet access. We need to ensure that there is a competitive market for high-speed Internet services." "We need a fair playing field," says Margaret Row of InterNet Kingston. "Bell's 'ISP Center of Excellence,' which was supposedly formed to address these issues, is a joke. We've gone through five representatives. Just when we feel like we're getting somewhere, the rep mysteriously disappears, and we're assigned someone new, and of course, there are more delays." "We're setting up our web site as a resource for ISPs who have similar experiences with their local phone providers," says Brandi Jasmine, RISC's web and media coordinator. "We strongly encourage ISPs to come forward, to document their experiences, to share their ideas and suggestions. We have a louder voice when we speak together." /For further information: Brandi Jasmine of RISC, 416-233-2151, ext. 302, or riscidirect.com/>>>>