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To: Father Terrence who wrote (18259)	3/13/1998 10:17:00 AM
From: Rick Julian	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Pops, I say language is feeble--you disagree. Indulge me please: Describe the smell of freshly baked bread? How would you describe the color red to a blind man? I'm sure you could write tomes on either subject, but in the final analysis, how close would words come to capturing the reality of smell or color . . . or love, or taste, or . . .? About as close as they come to capturing the reality of our existence. Rick

To: Father Terrence who wrote (18259)	3/13/1998 8:44:00 PM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen	Respond to of 108807

Mr. Terrence, I will shortly be providing copious evidence that Aristotle had NOTHING to do with the founding of America. Wake up and smell the coffee. Even major news magazines have concluded that "The Constitution and the Declaration of Independence were founded more on the Bible than anything else". You will be surprised to hear where the very cornerstone of our system, the three branches of goverment, equally weighted, came from. More on this in a bit, while I take care of some other business.

To: Father Terrence who wrote (18259)	3/13/1998 9:25:00 PM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Re Bone up on your history. Quite a reply considering you just yesterday claimed Benjamin Franklin was an athiest and a pornographer, with NO PROOF whatsoever. I have provided a record of a speech Mr. Franklin gave, in which he declared his firm believe in Divine Providence, and Mr. Franklin further moved to institute prayers to God EACH MORNING prior to discussing issues of weighty concern in the crafting of the Constitution of the United States. Yet you dismiss his words as meaning nothing of what he truly believed. What an INSULT to Mr. Franklin! Your skills at rewriting history are so poor, that even the old Soviets would have rejected your job application. It matters not to me that "Hitler was raised a christian". There have undoubtedly been many people raised as something or other, but the upbringing didn't stick. The devil takes his own. How was Stalin raised? He most certainly was an atheist while leader of the Soviet Union. Would you like to claim Stalin?

To: Father Terrence who wrote (18259)	3/13/1998 10:40:00 PM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

as promised, here is a start, with more to come: * "The separation of powers doctrine is found in two Biblical concepts: Isaiah 33:22, which identified three branches of government, and Jeremiah 17:9 which taught that man did not naturally tend toward good." Isaiah 33:22 For the Lord is our judge [Judicial Branch], the Lord is our lawgiver [Legislative], the Lord is our king [Executive]; he will save us. Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Deceitful....sounds a lot like what our politicians in Washington D.C. tend towards. * "Since man, when left unchecked, moved toward moral and civil degradation, society would be much safer if all power did not repose in the same authority. The three branches of government would provide a perfect means to separate the power and provide protection fro society, because hopefully not all three branches would ever become corrupt at the same time and could therefore place outside safeguards and checks on each other. Separation of powers, as were many of the Founders' political innovations, was a Biblically based idea." * David Barton, The Myth of Separation p. 196