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To: smolejv@gmx.net who wrote (2108)	3/16/1998 12:46:00 PM
From: Bullseye	Respond to of 11051

>> the bottleneck... is BANDWITH. << > I'm dreaming of a non-symmetric solution with the download going via > satellite dish (ASTRA can be seen on Teneriffe, but probably it > takes 10foot dish, Jury - g) and my LEETLE communication burst via > 9600 baud POTS the other way (*). A few months ago, a friend of mine told me that ASTRA would launch a new service which would enable speedy internet access and without the need of a modem for the upstream connection. Service was to be scheduled for february - march, but has been delayed (untill april I think) Anyone with some more information ? Bullseye!

To: smolejv@gmx.net who wrote (2108)	3/16/1998 1:22:00 PM
From: Jurgen Trautmann	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11051

Janko, re. satellites V of course I TRIED to check that too; but quote-services were expensive in US and not to pay for no one in Europe. And this would be the meaningful way to use satellites, cause you can share a (relative expensive) channel with millions of other users. I don't trust big companies. When you sign in a service that let you receive data via a satellite-channel, your PART of this bandwith (after timeslicing and frequence-sharing) is not controllable by you. You cannot know in a given moment whether your communicating server serves slowly or your satellite-channel. So you must trust in your providers fairness. In the type of places where I use to spend my time during most evenings I found sometimes a poster like this: "We trust in God - all others pay cash." Last not least: don't forget that EVERY transmission-error needs a reaction - in this technic a very slow reaction via your 9600-baud-feed. This is the same problem like data-corrections via GSM with up to 3 s (!!!) for a roundtrip - byte by byte, when the sh** hits the fan. I read something those days that a new standard for GSM-similar mobilfones was worldwide accepted with a planned data-feed of 1 megabit/s - that's 1/10th of standard ethernet and more than 100 times faster than actual mobilfones. What use the great famous INTEL TRADER to say: we need more pain. Jury