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To: Scott Pease who wrote (18043)	3/17/1998 4:07:00 AM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 24154

Its weird hearing the hypocrisy of this. Ok, want to explain that one Scott? It pains me, but I have to go with the dictionary defense. hypocrisy (hŒ-p•k'rŒ-sˆ) noun plural hypocrisies 1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness. 2. An act or instance of such falseness. The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright c 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved. So, what exactly am I professing here that I don't actually hold with? So, Netscape can't exactly compete with Microsoft, nor can anybody else, when it comes to Windows software. Some people like that. I find it problematic. Certain legal authorities find it problematic too. Yes, nobody was wild about Sun taking the compiler out of solaris, but by the time they did that gcc was a viable alternative. Not that I have any particular love for Sun either. What's the point anyway? That I'm a technoweenie and you're not? Who are you, Chevy Chase? Sure, everybody likes all the "free" software they can get. As to what makes up an OS, if you want to go with the Microsoftese "a bunch of software / whatever we say", well, that's your business. Legal authorities as well as technoweenies have a problem with that particular use of the language. And yes, Netscape has screwed up. I don't know where, exactly, I've said otherwise. Having your markets zeroed makes it hard to think clearly. Do I have to dig up the relevant quotes? Anyway, as to what the consumer wants, it's obviously the retail Win95 release of 2 1/2 years ago. Still flying off the retail shelves! It's the best seller! Bill himself has used that one, sans irony, as a defense, if you want to talk about hypocrisy. Cheers, Dan.

To: Scott Pease who wrote (18043)	3/17/1998 9:19:00 AM
From: Thure Meyer	Respond to of 24154

"Its weird hearing the hypocrisy of this. If you remember when Sun released Solaris a while back, they took the C++ compiler out of the standard install kit. People were howling, what kind of Unix machine ships without a compiler? Even nowadays people grumble. No one but technoweenies care what makes up an OS..." Scott, do you know what a compiler is for? And if you do, how can you compare it to a closed application? Also, what's a technoweenie? Is that like a silicon hot dog? Before you spout inanities again, think of what you are writing. That's why you get the Preview. Thure

To: Scott Pease who wrote (18043)	3/17/1998 9:22:00 AM
From: drmorgan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

(for those who think I am bitter at Netscape, I am. I've owned the stock for a while, and all they have done is fumble the ball. From what friends at Silicon Valley tell me, morale at Netscape is in the pits). Scott, tell us how you would run the company, perhaps NSCP's management will take your advice. How would you have dealt with MSFT after they declared war on you? Do you know something that NSCP doesn't? It looks to me that they don't plan on making money in the browser business, they are into into servers etc. And everyone keeps talking about browsers and because of this or that issue with browsers means the death of NSCP, thats a bunch of BS. NSCP may be bought but they are not going to die.

To: Scott Pease who wrote (18043)	3/17/1998 3:57:00 PM
From: Thure Meyer	Respond to of 24154

Well Scott,..maybe I dinged you a little unfairly. But its difficult to respond productively to a non sequitur like: "Its weird hearing the hypocrisy of this. If you remember when Sun released Solaris a while back, they took the C++ compiler out of the standard install kit. People were howling, what kind of Unix machine ships without a compiler? Even nowadays people grumble. No one but technoweenies care what makes up an OS." From this statement you infer somehow that integrating IE into Windows and calling it part of the OS is ok. And since we obviously care what makes up an OS (otherwise we wouldn't be talking about it) it makes us technoweenies (and our government too). Since you steamed the first weenie its somewhat disingenuous of you to complain when the weenie bites you. Thure