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To: borb who wrote (784)3/19/1998 1:06:00 PM
From: XOsDaWAY2GO  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3902
 
I found these on the AMAT board. FWIW

To: +Robert Douglas (5005 )
From: +Jess Beltz Thursday, Mar 19 1998 4:18AM EST
Reply # of 5018
Robert, you are absolutely correct about there being similarities
between the current mess in Japan and the past mess in the US,
particularly with respect to inflated asset prices. There are, however,
profound differences.

(1) The first and biggest difference is the magnitude of the problem.
The problem in the US was sector related, primarily due to real estate
development loans made by S&Ls in Texas, Louisiana and Oklahoma to
property developers that were counting on the continued expansion of the
oil industry related businesses in those areas. When oil went from $35
to $13 per barrel after the collapse of OPEC, there went the profits
that would fuel that expansion across a variety industries, and the
developers failed and down went the S&Ls connected with those loans.
S&Ls in other regions were by and large unscathed, and many resented
that the whole industry was tarnished by what happened (although even at
that time another crisis in the real estate market was looming in the
Northeast because of a change in the tax code.) Commercial banks were
much less affected, and much less tempted to go after risky RE
development loans.

By contrast, in Japan, the problems are across the entire banking
sector. There will be no domestic Resolution Trust type cure for the
problem without the participation of foreign (particularly American)
banks, because there are not enough healthy banks left in Japan.
Furthermore, the problems are not just a function of bad loans (both
domestic and foreign) to property developers in property markets that
have burst, but rather the banks also hold large portfolios of Japanese
equities, and those are heading south. A big part of the problem in
Japan is that the population is aging, so you don't have a population of
rabid consumers to but Japanese products. Sales figures for almost all
Japanese firms with mostly domestic sales are experiencing downturns,
due in part to the current economic uncertainty, but due also to the
fact that there are, and will continue to be less consumers in Japan
(the birth rate has been negative there for a long time.) This
translates into real trouble for all of the banks because (a) they'll
make less domestic loans in the long term, and (b) in the short term
these economic realities will soon translate into declines in equity
values. As these declines happen, the value of the equity in Japanese
banks necessarily will continue to fall, and one by one, the banks will
fail to meet the Basle capital standards that allow them to do business
internationally. In fact, most of them are already in violation of those
standards. For that very reason, they CANNOT write off the bad loans. If
they did, they would all immediately fall into violation of those
standards, since the decline in asset values would be mirrored by a
decline on the right hand side of the balance sheet in the value of
equity.

(2) An exacerbating problem for the Japanese (and the rest of Asia in
general) is that they do not have here well developed and efficient bond
markets. This means that if the banks cannot lend, there will be no debt
funds available AT ALL. That is a huge function of the IMF right now
with the bailout packages - to provide liquidity to keep existing loans
funded so the banks don't collapse. This is why the Japanese CANNOT
recognize the bad debt. Without bond markets, if the banks could no
longer lend, there could be ZERO economic expansion and the result would
be the Great Depression II. Kind of the ultimate credit crunch.

(3) There are real cultural differences that are providing huge problems
with getting the bad news out and fixing the problems here (I live in
Hong Kong but am primarily speaking about Japan.) I refer to

(a) Saving Face: a deterrent to the free flow of information, which
obstructs the admission of mistakes so that problems can be discovered
and remedies put into place.

(b) A Proclivity for Gambling: people here view 'playing the market'
much more like gambling than investment. This makes it difficult for
bond markets to gain acceptance while there is wide acceptance of stock
and futures markets. (This is by no means a problem exclusive to Japan,
and may not be as bad in Japan as it is in places like Hong Kong and
China)

(c) The Custom of Implicit Trade Contracts: the Oriental 'way of doing
business' often involves 'families of businesses' (keiretsu in Japan and
Chaebols in Korea) that tie member banks into making loans that should
never be made.

(d) An Opposition to 'Western Economic Imperialism.' The Japanese (and
others) do NOT want American Banks intruding in Japan any more than they
absolutely have to allow.

There's more, but I've lectured enough. There are REAL problems ahead
for the Japanese, and all of this region.

jess

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To: borb who wrote (784)3/19/1998 6:26:00 PM
From: chirodoc  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3902
 
pressure on japan is rising, more suicides, economy is in the tank. they have no choice. the only question is when they cut taxes and deregulate further.

my plan is to start buying this summer--slowly--assuming these condiditons are met. if not, i wait.