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To: Yogi - Paul who wrote (60)3/19/1998 10:53:00 PM
From: Yogi - Paul  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2025
 
IBM battles CPQ--How low can you go?
dailynews.yahoo.com
Excerpt- "In some ways, IBM took the pricing fight a step further than Compaq by reserving its steepest cuts for PCs built around Intel Corp.'s newer Pentium II processors."

irthrifty



To: Yogi - Paul who wrote (60)3/20/1998 7:16:00 AM
From: Stitch  Respond to of 2025
 
irthrifty, *OT*

<<By the way, now I'm a cigar smoking, scotch drinking, BMW driving, golf playing, capitalist pig.

I knew there was a reason I liked you. Exchange BMW for a mercedes (old one) and add "overweight" and we be twins.

Ref: The failure of education. It is the number one shame of America IMO. Even "Slick" doesn't come close.

Best,
Stitch



To: Yogi - Paul who wrote (60)3/20/1998 8:09:00 AM
From: Pierre-X  Respond to of 2025
 
Re: U.S. Education relating to PC market

You said:
Leaves you with 60% possible penetration.

Be careful here, my friend. You are speaking of population. I am speaking of households. I agree with much of what you say and still stand by my forecast of 75% penetration of households in 5 years.

You said:
A failed educational system in the US ...

Indeed this is sore subject with me as well. I spent the latter half of my college years studying this problem, with no easy answers. Having been through a few of the best public schools in the nation, I can well imagine the depths of the disaster which is even now ongoing at the others.

You said:
A further 15% of the population may have the desire to learn or try new things but are so crippled by an early lack of basic education that they are incapable of operating a basic terminal.

Why do you need a basic education to operate a terminal? Think of all the 3 and 4-year olds who haven't even been to school yet that handle the home PC better than their parents. These children will be computer users for the rest of their lives. They will not even imagine functioning without. Then, think how many college-educated, degree-wielding types are hopeless with computers. Then, think of all the 14-year-old hackers building beautiful, beautiful code in their little bedrooms and basements and garages on their 486s and whatnot. Trust me, I know some of them. These kids are the future of computing.

The magnificence of personal computing today is that anybody can pick it up. Regardless of education level.

The salvation of our nation may indeed come from PCs, because of their accessibility. Ironically, I believe part of that accessibility is a direct result of their not being "taught" in schools. Far, far better for the young acolytes of computing to learn for themselves, and to learn how to learn for themselves, and hold that magic of discovery and creation with them for the rest of their lives. There is evil to think of some ignorant, uncaring public school teacher peddling irrelevant and outdated "knowledge" at the poor children.

One of the profound effects of computing in the workplace has been a depreciation of educational certification. Increasing importance of computing skills in more and more professions has resulted in employers (naturally) putting them more weight in the hiring process. Since diplomas and degrees typically signify nothing about one's competency in this area, their value is diminished--EXCELLENT. I've never been a proponent of that kind of mindless criteria, and anything that breaks down these useless traditions fares well in my book.

You said:
By the way, now I'm a cigar smoking, scotch drinking, BMW driving, golf playing, capitalist pig.

An interesting statement. Implications about economics, political science, sociology, philosophy, and personal contentment, all rolled up into one sentence. <g> Did you have a bad day?

God bless,
PX