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To: rudedog who wrote (22669)3/20/1998 9:01:00 AM
From: John Covert  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 97611
 
Earth to hpeace! Earth to hpeace!

Sir, if memory serves, roundabout six months ago you posted a list
of CPQ dips in the last five years.

I printed that post, but I lost it in an office move. Searching this entire thread could be, well, an arduous task.

Do you recall what post that was? Can you repost that information?

I'd be obliged.

Regards,

John



To: rudedog who wrote (22669)3/20/1998 2:12:00 PM
From: Chris McConnel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 97611
 
Hi Rudedog,

that's right, I remember now, Tandem was doing some "Bet the company" stuff with NT long before the were bought by CPQ.

>>> IMHO DEC Unix can only be a serious contender if there is official or unofficial backing from MS which generates volume for the product. <<<

That would not make sense, unless it was some kind of concession on MSFT's part. They want Windows EVERYWHERE. Unless they were thinking the unthinkable, like moving SQL Server to Unix. Nah, they wouldn't do that, even though IMHO it would be in MS's best interest. Infiltrate and assimilate until they were ready to conquer, as it were.

So DEC Unix is the wild card in this. Sounds like a careful balancing act for CPQ. But HWP has a good Unix business and MS is (was?) buddy/buddy with them, too. It may just come down to, whatever it takes to get MS into the enterprise and if takes coexisting with Unix for the next 10 or more years to do it, they may have no choice in the matter. They are doing a port of IE4 for Unix, maybe more apps will follow.

It sounds like MS has a hell of lot of work ahead of them to get NT to be industrial strength.

- Chris



To: rudedog who wrote (22669)3/20/1998 5:31:00 PM
From: Spots  Respond to of 97611
 
>> MS was paying Tandem $30M to move key portions of non-stop
technology to NT

NT enterprise server has key portions of Tandem's nonstop
technology embedded. This has happened and has moved to market.

The technology affects both the file system and automatic
switchover for recovery after a hardware fault to backup
processes in other cpus, at least as best I understand it.
This is certainly a key part of Tandem's fault tolerance
in the high-end Tandem servers, as is loosely coupled
processors in multi-cpu systems (no shared memory, for
instance; an essential prerequisite to high-level
fault tolerance, and vital to linear expandability).

I'm not on the inside of this
and can't answer any questions about implementation details.
Nor do I know whether or not the complete isolation of
processors from each other was part of the NT port.
This is the hardest part (and is the fundamental behind
Tandem's key patents in the field).

All of this is now owned by CPQ, of course.