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To: Jim Patterson who wrote (35090)3/20/1998 4:36:00 PM
From: David Harker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 176387
 
More to Jim P.:

Jim wrote:

"Here is my point again.
To say:
Dell makes $500 on a $2500 PC, 20% margin.
Price cut from INTC of $200
that makes $2500 - $200( from INTC)= $2300
DELL still makes $500 on $2300 PC and Margins Go up to 21.7%

I am saying that this is incorrect."

Well, the math sure looks correct to me. If Dell choose to
preserve "$ per unit" profit, yes, their margins would rise.
You have studied Dell's margins, and lately they have been
holding constant. That would imply that in the above example,
Dell now makes less $ per unit, but chooses to preserve the
20% margin. That is their choice, either way. Big deal.

If they drop "$ per unit" (ie, keep margins at 20%) then
they have a more competitive product, and gain market share.
They also put the hurt on their competition, who can't take
advantage of the price drop nearly as quickly as Dell can,
due to the competition's much-inferior inventory management.

If I had the url, I'd post it, but I read recently in a write-up
on Dell, or in an interview w/ M. Dell, that Dell's internal
cost to build a given PC is 9% less than their competition,
for the reasons stated above.

This low-cost model is an inherent advantage, and a UNIQUE
advantage. Since component prices in this industry ALWAYS
trend lower, Dell will ALWAYS have this advantage. Even if
competition manages to completely stop doing "business as usual"
and completely emulates Dell's current model - which would
take YEARS - if it is even possible (Dell started this way from
day one, a huge advantage - it's really hard to rebuild a car
engine while you are driving it down the road.. which CPQ must
do...) ..by that time dell will have improved things even more -
take a look at inventory levels at Dell, and how they drop each quarter, down to only 7 days of inventory.

Unless Dell screws up, they have the next several years
in the PC industry to clean house - they have a huge
advantage that the competition is unlikely to even
catch up to, let alone surpass.



To: Jim Patterson who wrote (35090)3/20/1998 4:39:00 PM
From: SecularBull  Respond to of 176387
 
Jim, I don't agree with you. I think that DELL has the pricing power to make 21.7% (using your number) if they want to, but they choose to keep it at 20% to gain market share.

20% of 10,000,000,000 is still more than 20% of 9,000,000,000!

>>Here is my point again.
To say:
Dell makes $500 on a $2500 PC, 20% margin.
Price cut from INTC of $200
that makes $2500 - $200( from INTC)= $2300
DELL still makes $500 on $2300 PC and Margins Go up to 21.7%

I am saying that this is incorrect.<<



To: Jim Patterson who wrote (35090)3/21/1998 3:26:00 PM
From: ratan lal  Respond to of 176387
 
Jim

DELL still makes $500 on $2300 PC and Margins Go up to 21.7%

I am saying that this is incorrect.


That is correct. But wheteher DELL makes a higher or lower profit depends on the "SALES". If Sales remain the "SAME", then DELL in fact has made more money at 21.7% margin than it made at 20% margin. IF DELL's profit $$s remain the same, the obviously its sales have dropped in the same ratio (21.7/20)as its profit margin.

Furthermore the idea behind lowering prices is that DELL will sell even more than before. If they do, then not only has DELL made a higher 'MARGIN' but they have also increased profit $$s.

ratan