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To: norm who wrote (30682)3/21/1998 12:13:00 PM
From: Bradley Evans  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 41046
 
FYI to newbee's

businessweek.com



To: norm who wrote (30682)3/21/1998 5:00:00 PM
From: Seth L.  Respond to of 41046
 
No response on the fraud allegation?!
I must admit that Jean's Email to you seems to make some serious allegations of fraud against many (vocal) members on this thread.


Norm what are they supposed to say?
If you are naive enough to choose to believe that bullshit thats your choice.

Nuf said!!!!!!!!!!

Seth



To: norm who wrote (30682)3/21/1998 9:35:00 PM
From: BullyBear  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 41046
 
Norm, You wrote, "Not hiding anything are we?"

I have no idea who "we" is!

I am singular, if you would care to ask some question of me in particular I will probably answer you.

You also wrote, "but Jean has made some pretty strong accusations and no-one bats an eye-lid."

Would you please post the evidence you have that "no-one bats an eye-lid."
is an accurate statement?

Do not assume that because you have not seen a lot about this, nothing is being done. Often the MOST EFFECTIVE remedy kinda slips up on the offenders!!

Best regards, BullyBear <eom>



To: norm who wrote (30682)3/21/1998 11:58:00 PM
From: BullyBear  Respond to of 41046
 
NORM, and probably of interest to ALL.
(Sorry about the format, I hope it does better than it looks like it will!)

I have been thinking about the point you raised and realized that something I took part in on the Yahoo thread might shed the light of truth on some of it. So in the interest of shining as much light as possible on the lie I am posting the links for those who have not read the Yahoo FTEL thread.

First read this link where the poster raises the same allegations that Jean and Valuspec seem to repeat continually.
messages.yahoo.com@m2.yahoo.com

Now read the post where I jumped in:
(Note clearly what I asked the poster to do!)
messages.yahoo.com@m2.yahoo.com

Now read the answer that was openly posted for public viewing (the first six or eight lines are sufficient) and decide for yourself who is honest about the matter of "insiders".
messages.yahoo.com@m2.yahoo.com

So that you will have a comparison, read this link which is a posting of the email I received from Jean where the allegation was made to me (no hearsay).
Message 3769685

I'm not too sharp sometimes, and sometimes the truth has to knock me down before I recognize what it is. BUT if I were to use "insider" in making reference to RB, Vic, Marvin, Martin, Doug, and Blair (as Jean has done in this email), I would expect someone to call me a liar!!! I would also expect Franklin to pursue the matter if I made allegations that FTEL insiders were taking part in a scam on the internet!!

BTW To JSuther781. If you wish to send a message to me now with "Apology" in the header. You will need to post a public message somewhere because I have taken steps to block you from my AOL address. I am of the opinion that you do not have enough character to admit you are wrong, but may be I am wrong about that. We shall see!

In the interest of truth so that all may know, BullyBear