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To: Moot who wrote (7298)	3/22/1998 6:45:00 PM
From: marcos	Respond to of 10836

"Many's the pessimist who got that way financing an optimist." Re names in the Spanish style; To take an example - Rafael Rodr¡guez Acosta; 'Rafael' is his 'nombre', or 'given/Christian name' we would say in English. 'Rodr¡guez is the 'apellido paterno', or 'surname' of his father. 'Acosta' is the 'apellido materno', or 'surname' of his mother. To use only one surname in the English style, use that of the father, in this case 'Rodr¡guez'. Another example - Carlos Salinas de Gortari is known as 'Salinas'. Ernesto Zedillo Ponce de Le¢n is known as 'Zedillo', etc. The mother's name lasts only the one generation. Re Roy Carson - we could remember that he is only an Irishman -g-. You could be right, his colourful and dramatic style could be a function of the medium. Likewise, imho, his spelling, we didn't all spend much time at Oxbridge. I have no problem with him making money from his subscribers, especially considering that I am not among them, this is far superior to making money by altering the 'news' to order, as a number of tout sheets do. The only factual error that I've noticed in Carson's stuff (mind you, I haven't watched it closely) has been his recent assertion that Rodr¡guez would face disciplinary action on his return to Venezuela. This is pretty clearly not true, and seemed obviously false when said, imho. He's just a dramatic kinda guy, which is not a crime anywhere. Your point, though - that it would be insane to base a trading decision solely on his information - is a good one. But lined up against Bishop and Grandich and Asensio and any number of tout sheets out there, he probably makes at least an average grade, and has better pictures of pretty ladies, imho. Your comments on the value of the stifling of dissent on the various threads are right on, imho, but I also question the value of the continuous negative postings by viper and the like which lack any useful information. The very existence of a 'Pro-KRY' forum, though, I agree, that is an absurdity and a good reason to question the mindset of those who would promote it. "...it may just be an effect of the medium akin to what might occur when a child previously constrained to drawing with a pencil is presented with a box of Crayola crayons." Love it, it does my sole good - can you literally see me smirk? ;-) ............. buenas tardes ................. marcos

To: Moot who wrote (7298)	3/22/1998 10:47:00 PM
From: Libertarian22	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10836

Moot---Media manipulation and making money (or getting your way). Again I appreciate your post re the internet and media. To take this a step further I would like to comment on what I see is going on in this matter. In litigation good attorneys are always on the look out for those who take extreme or hyper positions to get their way. An example is a person who sues for a million dollars expecting to get ten thousand. It is considered a victory if the case was only worth 5 thousand. The same thing is going on in the KRY media war. The shorts and Asensio have brought to the media's attention extreme and loud positions. Typical lazy reporters do not want to do their own investigation. As such they will take the short "position" and the KRY response and "balance it". The problem is that the balance is weighing an extreme position with a subdued response. The result is hardley balance but is disguised as balance. Good media manipulators know this in advance, In the business world attackers know that they have the target at a disadvantage. It cannot respond with equal fervor or get sued. The attacker rarely gets sued successfully because of the many "factors" that may affect the price of the stock. In the last week we all saw how this works. It was especially true for the original Reuters story and "news conference " in Miami. This coming week it will occur some more. Remember Asensio is not just a trader but a media manipulating master. KRY is in the business of mining gold. That is why the target has a rough time defending itself. It has never done this before. Asensio has done this repeatedly. So watch in the media for unbalanced balance. It is the hallmark of lazy reporters or those that truly do have an agenda. I suspect that the KRY matter will end up baffeling the shorts (those that have not already covered). This is not a normal operating company these tactics will work on. The price is tied to a court decision and economics of mining gold. The internet is also a good counter. Even lazy reporters can wade through these threads for what its worth. Also see it as an opportunity. If your did your DD and the press does not reflect your opinion as to the story, you have a trading opportunity. This of course assumes the truth will come out eventually. The difference here is that there is a greater liklihood of truth coming out. It called a court decision. This is unlike other short attacks. Watch the media this week-- read between the lines. By the way this is as good as watching the spin doctors for Bill Clinton. When they get predictable as to their mode of operation you know they are losing.