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Strategies & Market Trends : BFT: Will the tulip craze ever break down? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Pancho Villa who wrote (129)3/23/1998 11:16:00 AM
From: John Tais  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 650
 
Price to sales is the only measure that makes BFIT look good.
I'd like to know how they report their sales. Are sales reported
as the amount of money contracted for by the new members, or is it
actual cash receipts? How do the members who quit and stop paying
affect the reported sales of the company? It begins to look like
cash flow is the only reliable figure. (and we know that is negative).
The fact that insiders are not selling is a pretty scary thing.
Any idea if there is another way they are getting money out of
the company?



To: Pancho Villa who wrote (129)3/23/1998 12:43:00 PM
From: Don Westermeyer  Respond to of 650
 
Pancho,

I sure know what you mean about predicting stock price in the short term.

I followed a company that recorded a large one time revenue as 'earnings' over the following three quarters. The stock skyrocketed as the P/E went into the single digits, even though the company was recording a large operating loss. I watched the stock almost double as investors couldn't wait to jump into the stock. Of course the stock has not given up all those gains and more as the 'revenue' has been fully accounted for now. The fools that bought can't understand what is going on, but next earnings they will understand.

Hopefully we won't have to sit through a double in BFIT!



To: Pancho Villa who wrote (129)3/23/1998 1:34:00 PM
From: Witling  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 650
 
Pancho or anyone,

Does INVESTING normally include capital items like
plant and equipment? Should the bulk of the investing
category be amortized purchase expenses, or capital gains
in the event of a sale?

Also, if a net $16 million went into property and equipment,
would you expect to see an increase in property and equipment
assets before depreciation?

CASH FLOW
...
INVESTING: Purchases and construction of property
and equipment (27,065) (20,612) (22,469)
Proceeds from sale of property and
equipment 10,946
Reserve fund deposit refunded (paid)
pursuant to securitization facility 10,000 (20,000)
Other, net 833 353
-------- -------- --------
Cash used in investing activities (16,119) (9,779) (42,116)

DECEMBER 31,
------------------
1997 1996
-------- --------


ASSETS
...
Property and equipment, at cost:
Land 21,667 22,550
Buildings 109,613 108,361
Leasehold improvements 402,503 400,340
Equipment and furnishings 91,958 99,073
-------- --------
625,741 630,324
Accumulated depreciation and amortization 314,544 304,865
-------- --------
Net property and equipment 311,197 325,459

ps. Thank you, Pancho, for the illuminating deconstruction
of the 10K. Capitalized sales commissions must be the
work of the genius who invented goodwill for purchase accounting.