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To: Thean who wrote (16213)3/23/1998 8:07:00 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Respond to of 95453
 
Thean

what happened to IQ? The charts for today are almost 2 hours late...
PK



To: Thean who wrote (16213)3/23/1998 8:33:00 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
spoke too soon...here they come now....can't get slb or abx(off topic on that one)...most look pretty ugly to me..."evening star" types.

RIG sold off to the low and to the December support at 52. Below that tomorrow and it should head back to 48. HAL looks really ugly, too. Just too far too fast IMO. Just hope we don't gap down at the open. I prefer a selloff so everyone can have a few minutes to get their house in order.

OTH, DO, RIG, HAL all closed above the recent resistance.

Be careful tomorrow. All the traders will be looking at these charts. if they get spooked it could get really ugly as everyone tries to pull $ off the table first.

PK



To: Thean who wrote (16213)3/23/1998 8:38:00 PM
From: HH  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 95453
 
Thean, You raise some very compelling thoughts in your
post. The first, re: TA is great. I, dont practice it
with any sophistication as I dont put much faith
in any system that discounts fundamentals. And I find
it amusing that when you look at at a chart in retro,
it all looks like a plan. I think it is a mistake ,
however to discard the essence of what TA is after;
the quantification of the collective vote-de-jour.
I think Paul's vocal objection to TA is an academic
cop-out.(Excuse me Paul but you have been vocal)
Paul's objection has been the statistical non-correlation.
Definitely a strong argument but it is similar to
the statistical non-correlation of tobacco and cancer.

The second point relates to Oil prices and OPEC.
(Gotta go eat dinner so This is quick)
Oil prices will remain viable because it has to.
Imagine a world with no oil industry.......

bon appetit

HH



To: Thean who wrote (16213)3/23/1998 8:42:00 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Respond to of 95453
 
Thean

We've been here before my man. Good news then crushed the next dat so follow your own advice and keep those stops in place. The only chart i like is the OSX daily. Even that shows we backed off to the New Years resistance...and we all know what followed that!

PK



To: Thean who wrote (16213)3/23/1998 8:43:00 PM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen  Respond to of 95453
 
Re Dwight - show no bias. Stocks can also go to incredible low, much lower that we expected. You must have a really short memory.

Ah, no, my memory of my DO calls being near-worthless 5 trading days ago was posted late last night. I didn't think anyone here needed to be reminded of the fact that stocks can go lower, much lower than one would believe possible. I also hold CDG May 45 strike calls, which I don't even care to know how much they are worth, though I know at least early last week they weren't worth much. On dark days I don't care to focus on how crummy my investments/gambles are doing. And on good days like today, the question becomes sell or hold, which I was addressing -- and plus, why focus on the dark past.

Re Again - for those who haven't learned - don't buy at the open when there is a strong positive news.

Good reminder. I'm been burned enough times so that I was very willing to be patient and wait until the last part of the day to buy. Even still, it's quite possible that better prices will be here in coming days -- however, since I know how crummy I am at timing the market, AND since I'm holding for more than days or a couple weeks, I'm comfortable being in with more money, now that this important fundamental news is out. Today I put 150% more money into these stocks than I put in on Feb. 20th. I have my March 45 DO call proceeds to spend yet, which I will use to add to my position(s) on any weakness in coming days.

DK



To: Thean who wrote (16213)3/23/1998 8:55:00 PM
From: John Carson  Respond to of 95453
 
How long can oil prices stay down?

The Associated Press
CARACAS, Venezuela, March 23 - Plummeting crude prices have begun to wreak havoc in the economies of the world's oil-producing nations. Governments are slashing budgets and growth forecasts, companies are scrapping investment and citizens from Quito to Tehran are preparing for hard times. "Our economy is built on oil, so we are bracing for a real depression," said an Iranian businessman, Omid Rostamani. Last week, futures prices for North Sea Brent blend dropped to $11.90 a barrel, the lowest in a decade. Prices for other petroleum types also have slumped, and oil-dependent countries stand to lose billions of dollars if prices don't recover soon. The result may be less money for badly needed social programs in places including Mexico and Indonesia.

Demand Lowest In Years

Lackluster demand blamed on Asia's financial crisis and an
unusually warm winter produced the million-barrel-a-day glut
on world markets that sent prices tumbling. Oil ministers of
Saudi Arabia, Venezuela and Mexico announced Sunday that
they have agreed to work together to reduce output by at least
1.6 million barrels a day. Details of the plan, announced in a statement released in the Saudi capital Riyadh, have yet to be worked out. The cutback was not a formal agreement to reduce the
Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries' overall
production ceiling or the quotas of individual members. It was
not clear how many of OPEC's 11 members would abide by it. Low prices already have inflicted some pain. Oil companies in Alberta, Canada, have announced layoffs and reduced heavy crude production. Russia, which depends on the energy sector for half of government revenues, announced this past week it would ease the tax burden on struggling oil firms. Some high-cost wells, such as an Hibernia consortium
offshore platform hear Newfoundland, soon could be producing oil that costs more to pump than it earns on the market.

Middle Eastern Nations Hit Hard

In Saudi Arabia, the world's largest oil exporter, the currency
has been sliding because of Saudis trading in riyals for dollars
in anticipation of a weaker economy. Share prices for Saudi companies have fallen by 15 percent since December. The Saudi oil company, Aramco, was considering big spending cuts, which experts say likely would lead to the delay or cancellations of several major refinery projects. In recent weeks, Saudi Arabia has blamed the price slump on OPEC partner Venezuela, accusing it of over producing.
Venezuela, the largest foreign supplier of oil to the United States, has been the biggest violator of OPEC quotas. In the past, Venezuela has reacted to low prices by printing and borrowing money, falling into what oil executive Jose Toro Hardy called a "vicious circle of debt, devaluation and inflation." This time, the country has reduced spending instead. Officials cut the national budget by $1.2 billion, and the state-run oil company, Petroleos de Venezuela, announced $900 million in spending cuts. "There will be less growth as a result, but at least we won't have the long-term economic distortions of the past," said Toro, who sits on Petroleos de Venezuela's board of directors.

Many Nations Affected

Here is how some oil countries have fared during the price slump:

 Kuwait, which depends on oil for more than 90 percent of
government revenue, has cut the national budget by 25 percent. Its oil has been selling at around $10 a barrel, compared to $17 in November. Kuwait's goal of balancing its budget by 2000 "cannot be achieved unless a miracle takes place," said economist Amer al-Tamimi.

 Norway , the world's second-largest oil exporter, enjoys a
gigantic budget surplus, which low oil prices could reduce to
merely big. "This isn't exactly giving the economy breathing
problems," Deputy Finance Minister Erlend Skjoerstad said.

 Iran has said it loses $1 billion a year for every $1 drop in
the price of oil. Saddled with nearly $17 billion in foreign debt,
the government has doubled import duties to slow foreign purchases. Rostamani, the businessman, said his civil engineering firm has canceled projects. "Just about all businesses have begun to retrench," he said.

 Mexico, where the state oil monopoly Pemex provides 40 percent of government revenue, has trimmed its budget once and soon may do so again. As in Venezuela and Ecuador, budget cuts threaten investment in health, education and housing.