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To: Scott McPeely who wrote (8491)	3/24/1998 2:14:00 PM
From: jeff armstrong	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Gee Scott, your messages are so long that it gives me the impression no one ever listens to you. Jeff

To: Scott McPeely who wrote (8491)	3/24/1998 2:55:00 PM
From: Frederic Herman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

<Courtesy of Java advocacy:> NOT I believe your a fraud, bozo. This is certainly not the position of any organization other then Microslop.

To: Scott McPeely who wrote (8491)	3/24/1998 3:37:00 PM
From: cheryl williamson	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

Scott, Eat your heart out, Jackson. SUNW just signed on Ericsson Telecom, Sony, Nokia Telecom, and a new deal with IBM. They already have 150 big-name Java licensees and the momentum is just beginning. All your Sound & Fury isn't going to change that. Take your rhetoric with you & go home. cheers, cherylw

To: Scott McPeely who wrote (8491)	3/27/1998 12:12:00 AM
From: Kashish King	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

This is problematic when it is realized that OO is being replaced by componentized systems like COM, where all else but the interface is being separated out in the interest of the replaceable software part. I think you've demonstrated quite adequately that you don't have the foggiest notion as to what in the hell you are talking about. COM is a procedural nightmare circa 1985 and Microsoft has been working on it tirelessly for all of that decade. They quite literally, let me repeat that: literally, did not have the foggiest notion of what object-oriented computing was all about, let alone distributed components. The technology fell flat on its face several times and after several rewrites and a barrage of hacks and afterthoughts the whole morass is still on the verge of collapse. It never got off the ground and today it could be considered a cheap extension of Visual Basic at best. I think it's rather telling that you hold COM in such high regard, almost as telling as Java coming out of nowhere to throttle it. Do you think IBM, Sony, Motorola, HP and the others are capable of making an informed decision on which technology is superior: Java or the C grade high school project which COM represents? Really, I can only look on with amusement as Microsoft tries to re-invent Windows as an object-oriented, component based system. It's funny as hell.