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To: Sriram who wrote (8515)	3/24/1998 9:41:00 PM
From: Kashish King	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Will people stop using IE or a java product from msft, just because it will not say java compatible? I think the real question is whether corporations and governments will wish to use an grossly inferior component technology and the answer to that question is an emphatic no. Microsoft simply hasn't ever delivered any core technology of its own and that's not about to change with the decade-old hack-job they call ActiveX. The johnny-come-lately, me-too attempts to modernize Visual Basic are simply shoddy Windows dressing. Speaking of shoddy, the brittle, unsecure, incoherent morass they call a component technology is what has them looking over their shoulder in the first place. We wouldn't even be talking about this if Java wasn't monumentally superior to Microsoft's warmed-over DOS hack. 1. Java is vastly superior to Visual Basic. 2. Java Beans are vastly superior to ActiveX. 3. Enterprise Java Beans are vastly superior to Distributed COM. Finally, to answer your question: yes people will stop using Microsoft products that aren't Java compatible because large corporations and governments will demand standards-based technology and specifically Java, Java Beans and Enterprise Java Beans.

To: Sriram who wrote (8515)	3/24/1998 9:49:00 PM
From: Kashish King	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

...what is the material effect to sun's earnings due to this? The material effect to Sun's earnings is that Microsoft can't co-opt Java and consequently they can't co-opt enterprise computing. Sun is clearly going to have more upside potential with Java as the de facto building blocks of modern software versus Microsoft's home-grown slop.

To: Sriram who wrote (8515)	3/24/1998 10:46:00 PM
From: cheryl williamson	Respond to of 64865

Sriram, I'm not so sure. Do you remember the old saying in the 70's & 80's? "...There's IBM and then there's everyone else". MSFT has just suffered a PR disaster. This will really make them look isolated from the rest of the world on a forward-looking technology that will soon be adopted by most of the civilized world. If you want to run a banking application from your home or car to get an update on a checking account balance, what are you going to run, 100% pure java applications or a Windows CE j++ application? Since MSFT isn't 100% pure java & since Windows CE doesn't scale & won't be compatible w/Windows NT, even if your bank DID run NT instead of MVS or Solaris, you wouldn't be compatible & your application wouldn't run very well. But, why should you care what kind of O/S your bank runs? If you have a 100% pure Java device (like an Ericsson or Nokia cell phone) you don't care, because your application will automatically work. MSFT's "java" won't work at all, because they refuse to adhere to the Java standard. MSFT's ploy is a charade. They're just playing for time. cheers, cherylw