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To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (18207)	3/26/1998 2:06:00 PM
From: Thure Meyer	Respond to of 24154

"first workstations with the Pentium and PII, then servers with the PPro and PII, next mainframes with Merced... I suppose this was just dumb luck..." and in reference to chip production "That is irrelevant, customers and investors don't buy into production, they buy into whole products which consist of much more than chips, bits, and bytes." Its amazing to me that you don't notice that you are arguing my point. 1) Intel is on the desktop and in servers thanks to Compaq, Dell, Microsoft and others. 2) Intel does not make whole products except as OEM stuff for people like Reuters and that is a market trailing activity. If you remember, your heros like Bill Gates and others like to refer to themselves as "tech guys" so history has proven the opposite. Sure, as industries age, the financial and marketing guys tend to take over. But not in this industry. Look around. Thure

To: Reginald Middleton who wrote (18207)	3/28/1998 4:11:00 AM
From: Charles Hughes	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

>>><To paraphrase "tech guys don't understand business". Its kind of a "gee whiz" approach like "you can't knock success" or "what works, works". That is simply your bias but it is not grounded in fact.> It may not sound nice to tech guys, but history has proven this fact.<<< So, Andy Grove, his PhD is in what? The heads of Sony are engineers. In fact, most high tech companies general upper managers have at least a degree in something technical, and some have real technical depth. Meanwhile, history has shown that the companies that went heavy with MBAs in the 1980s often capsized from the dead weight. Accounting for why you don't hear as much about how great MBAs are for a company anymore. There are some great generalists out there like Gerstner (sp?). But those are the exception rather than the rule. And often, like Gates and Jobs, they have a partner who is a real engineer. Cheers, Chaz