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To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (18231)3/27/1998 5:04:00 PM
From: Keith Rowland  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24154
 
Please explain the popularity behind the Sun sponsored jihad against
Microsoft? We all know Sun is beating the pants off its unix
competitors by marketing and not technological innovation so why
aren't you ranting about them?

What is the big deal about Java the language? Sun created Java by
culling two languages that already existed (C++ and Smalltalk).

What is the big deal about Java the platform? The Java virtual
machine is based on a tired old concept that has been tried many times
before and has failed every single time.

This is worthy of the all the hype?

Personally, I want to see advancement towards a natural interface to
computers using speech recognition, VRML, etc. and not a dumbed down
solution like the Network Computer.



To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (18231)3/28/1998 4:00:00 AM
From: Charles Hughes  Respond to of 24154
 
>>>But Microsoft's plans may conflict with a current effort to create a 3-D standard for the Web. The VRML Consortium, which touts its "virtual reality markup language" as an open standard, has already released an initial VRML specification.<<<

When they bought Rendermorphics and turned it into Direct 3D, it had become a de facto standard in gaming. It was also being used under some VRML implementations. Then they killed off the Unix version, the Playstation version, etc, per the usual practice.

Now they want it to be a cross-platform solution again? Or are they actually saying they would implement it on other platforms? I didn't hear them actually say that. I rather doubt it. That would have been fairly easy in 1996, but the code base has changed a lot by now. They revised the API, too (which admittedly needed it.)

Sounds like more VaporFUD to me.

Cheers,
Chaz

P.S. Chrome was cool for 3D'rs back in what - 1985? 1990? The days of the cheesy chrome flying logos. And it was a retro thing even then. (It was all we could manage to program with the hardware and techniques we had at the time.) I'm afraid the management at MSFT are showing their disconnect again. Or at least their major distance from the world of working designers, graphics programmers and other graphickinder. You know, they are beginning to remind me of the old GM or International Harvester of the 50's. 'We run this business. We'll be here forever. What's good for us is good for America ....'



To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (18231)3/29/1998 7:12:00 PM
From: damniseedemons  Respond to of 24154
 
Right Dan, but again me and Keith were talking about how both Microsoft and Netscape have claimed to be fully open/standardized with their web work but neither company truly is. Chrome is not applicable here because Microsoft didn't say anything about making it an open standard.