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To: Bootz who wrote (6379)	3/27/1998 7:59:00 PM
From: jan_mike	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11708

Carole appears to have been replaced with a Carole/Satan combo look alike. Welcome to the thread and thanks for the questions! Nobody could possibly look like a fool while I'm still here, so let it rip. Just when KZAP thought it was safe to get back in the water... Mike

To: Bootz who wrote (6379)	3/27/1998 8:12:00 PM
From: charles messick	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11708

Welcome Bootz,.........I'm looking forward to "the rest of the story". If you are a friend of Carole then you can't be all bad. You are right this can be a fun thread and I'm sure our official Greeter & Defender,.... The Incredible, The Magnificent, The Totally Overwhelmingly AwwwwwwwwSome K. K. K. K. K. KZAP will extend the traditional Coconino welcome. I look forward to viewing your thoughts. Later, Chuck Messick

To: Bootz who wrote (6379)	3/27/1998 10:14:00 PM
From: TraderGreg	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 11708

You are the stockholders. You want SEC filings? Then stay tuned. Whoa, Bootz. Where's Clemenza, franco, Barzini, Sonny , Michael and Freudo? I'd join in but my ancestors, though they settled on an island in the Med, settled on an island off the coast of Greece. With all due respect, sure, stockholders can certainly petition to get the 10 filed but the management is the ultimate driver. For whatever reason, a certain diligent, cautious approach is being taken and, like it or not, we have to let it play out...since I don't think we can come up with enough votes to put a new board in(run by KZ of course). Remembe, my post about how once the IPO is done and cashflow is adequate, a company's stock price is pretty much irrelevant to the success of its business. Really, think for a moment. Mike, KZ and I start a company, we go public, issue a bunch of shares,acquire four ops, run the whole thing out of KZs home office. Cashflow is enough to keep us going, the three of us are drawing salaries, and we're out marketing and growing the business...slowly. Meanwhile, the shareholders are calling, complaining cause we're not registered with the SEC. We say that we're proceeding in due course. Shareholders will do what? I mean, we're nice guys, so we want to be responsive to shareholder concerns, but it really doesn't matter. Does it? I mean, it's not like KZ comes back and tells Mike and me that he lost a construction job cause the client said our stock price was too low. As I once said long ago, no homeowner is gonna not take a 125 mtge cause our stock price is down; Joe's BBQ ain't gonna stop dumping his chicken fat in the Enviro well because the stock price is down. See what I mean? Different agendas people. Face it, the companies that worry about stock price are often the ones who need it high so they can dilute into it to pay the bills(just like stock traders who do it for a living) or who want to acquire more companies. WCOM, yea, Bernie worries about stock price. But Coco has four quality operations going, they want to keep them going, and if we don't like the pace their taking, they can just say AMF(that's Adios My Friend or pick your choice). I'm not taking the corporate side, I'm just trying to show you all where they are coming from. TG

To: Bootz who wrote (6379)	3/27/1998 10:29:00 PM
From: kenyshoe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11708

Are we arrogant or what? Should have stayed a lurker! Ken

To: Bootz who wrote (6379)	3/28/1998 12:16:00 PM
From: KZAP	Respond to of 11708

Welcome Bootz! Looks like we may have a new leader on this thread! Great! Just what we need! Bootz, a few questions myself. <<<<<Question for the moment: Who, at AdHatters did you talk to, KZAP, and how recently is "real recently"? Names and phone numbers, please, as I don't see any reason why they should be secret, or, for that matter, in any way reluctant to tell me what they told you, seeing as how we're both stockholders. Did they tell you who was distributing the air-fresheners for them? Or did you bother to ask?>>>>> First, Was my last post to George close enough? Because I don't know sometimes what I'm 'allowed' to post and what I'm not 'allowed' to post. (of course I can post what I want, but wouldn't want any one of my sources, to cut me off) Not that I would cause anyone trouble from my posts. I didn't mean to sound like I was trying to hide anything. I'm not the 'source' which should be quoted, nor asked. My posts are what I see and hear and opinions that I conclude. <<<<< I've got a couple of more issues which I want to raise on this thread, but will refrain from doing so now until I'm more familiar with the mechanics of posting. I don't want to make a fool of myself unless I have to!>>>>> Looks to me like you've caught on real fast! No need to worry about form so much. We know spelin' and grammer aren't not graded here. It's substance and insight we are most interested in. IMHO <<<<<But less I be misunderstood at the outset, let me say that I'm long on CSMA, for reasons which will soon follow. Because of that, I will have a couple of proposals to make, ones which will, hopefully, turn this thread from a merely passive, observing, commenting, one -- fun as it is -- into one capable of effecting real change.>>>>> I'm not so much for change. But It's not my thread. Post as much info as you can gather! Real info! With names, numbers, addresses, quotes and the whole story! Please don't leave out any details! Thanks! <<<You are the stockholders. You want SEC filings? Then stay tuned.>>> If you can MAKE things happen, why have you been lurking so long? Where've you been when we needed you so much? You go for it Bootz!!! <<<<<--Bootz>>>>>> Please, I won't stand in your way! I'll be waiting and watching! Having a great day! Mostly outside! Now, its back to Honey Do jobs! GO CSMA!!! KZAP

To: Bootz who wrote (6379)	3/28/1998 1:30:00 PM
From: KZAP	Respond to of 11708

BOOTZ, I'm sorry I didn't respond to this my last post: <<<<<I've been a lurker and this is my first post. Until I figure out exactly how everything works I won't be too prolix. Got into CSMA via a friend of Carole's. Looking to be long, more details to follow.>>>>> <<<<<But less I be misunderstood at the outset, let me say that I'm long on CSMA, for reasons which will soon follow.>>>>> At first you say "looking to be long" and then you say "I'm long on CSMA" I'll assume you are wanting to be long, and as long as CSMA 'checks out', you ARE long. Right? AND, I am wondering how long it will be before the "details" which are "soon to follow" will be. Thanks! Get the hang of it by jumping in! It'll be fun! Happy investing! Go CSMA! KZAP