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To: Jamoui who wrote (1228)3/29/1998 2:40:00 PM
From: Burt  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1472
 
Bill & All; I havn't lost hope long term, but I do have my short-term doubts. In any event, here are the points I'm making, hopefully in a nutshell:

1. Let me apologize for some misinformation I had previously passed on because I read the wrong line in Vickers Insider Trading Chronology. Steven M. Duffy did, indeed, directly sell shares at $28 a share on the open market (on 2/20), but he sold 500 shares (not 4000 shares). He also indirectly transferred 822 shares at from 28.13 to 28.19 per share. In other words, he helped depress the market price, but without as much impact as I reported. (But, it's not that he wasn't trying: he also indirectly transferred an additional 7,066 shares at an unspecified price on 2/25.) And, in Feb., the other execs didn't exactly have our interests at heart when they transferred, directly and indirectly, another 9,234 shares at from 34.74 to 36.19 per share. That certainly provides a nice cap for the short-sellers!

2. I already addressed the decline in outstanding and uncovered short sales in message #1192 to which I refer you all. Briefly, I speculated that the bulk of the short sales were probably made by Intel, Tektronix and/or other insiders to lock in profit on either shares or options they own that were acquired at $8.08 per share. The decline in short interests was caused by Intel and Tektronix unloading shares so they have less stock to protect. In any event, the decline in short interests is nothing to get excited about with insiders still owning over 42% of the outstanding RSYS stock, all acquired at bargain prices. That not only dilutes the value of our shares, but threatens the stability of the future market value of our shares.

3. As to the forthrightness of Brian Turner. (Sigh!) You have two choices: (a) he's either foolish, or (b) he knows exactly what he's doing, but what he's doing aint to help us.
The (a) choice: A couple of weeks ago, RSYS stock isn't exactly knocking our socks off, but it's hanging in there at about $37. Then comes the ill-fated Red Chip conference. At that conference, Turner suggest that RSYS might be affected by the SEA situation and its profits might flatten as a result, the embedded market is ONLY growing at about 15% (tops) a year, less than 50% of the embedded solutions are Intel solutions and RSYS has no idea how much of that market it has (therefore, can have no idea of the market it will have in the future), etc., etc., etc. Any problem figuring out why the stock thereafter sank like a rock?
The (b) choice. Turner knew exactly what he was doing in (a), above, and meant to make RSYS fall, at least short term. That's because we, as shareholders, just recently authorized the corporation to issue stock to cover a million-and-a-half dollars of incentive stock options for execs. For tax purposes, the when-issued option price has to be equal to the fair market value price of the stock. Obviously, if you're about to grant those options, you want the price of those options to be as low as you can get them to increase the possible future profit taxable as capital gain. (That's why all that exec-owned stock was unloaded in Feb.)

Any questions, my darlings?

4. Zacks, the Comsumer Reports of corporate raters, has RSYS as a 4 (out of a low of 5) short term, and a "sell" long term. Why? Because as long as Intel and Tektronix have all that $8.08 stock to unload (and, RSYS makes them unload it on the open market by not redeeming it or providing for private buyers), the stock isn't going anywhere. The very ownership of those shares acquired so cheaply means the stock value (whatever the company's prospects are) is diluted by both the potential drag on the market represented by the future sales of those shares, and by the continued small float and resultant volatility presently created by those shares being off the market. ( In other words, a lose\lose situation.)



Bill (and anyboby else who's close to RSYS), why not forward this mash message to Turner (or, the head of RSYS investor relations, Jennifer Anderson--who, by the way, seems to be a nice lady) and offer him a chance to respond. If he sends me a response (BurtJD@msn.com), I'll be happy to post it.




To: Jamoui who wrote (1228)3/29/1998 4:30:00 PM
From: Jamoui  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1472
 
I am trying to figure out how this "short against the box" really works. Say I am an Intel and I have lots of shares that I just can't or don't want to sell. The price of RSYS goes up and I sell short against my own shares to protect my price level at this point, say $55. I still need to borrow the shares to sell short because I am not going to sell my own shares, but I can use my shares to pay back the loan at anytime especially if the stock goes down. At this point I have locked in my price, but I have also blocked any further profit on my shares if the stock continues to go up because I have those shares sold short. I am not a typical short-seller, however, because I don't get panicky when the stock price goes up because I don,t have to buy to "cover" my short position because I already own the shares. My short position is not stimulatory in a up market, in fact, since I have done this with a million shares (25%) of RSYS's float, I am a drag on the "up market" and RSYS always quickly breaks down rather than holds at higher levels as soon as the buying slows.
The stock goes down again but I still don't want to sell all my shares to close my short position because I would really tube the stock of a company that buys my products and that I want to succeed.

Now I am Brian Turner and group, and maybe I have assumed, as this Thread I think had assumed, that the large short position against RSYS's stock were those stink'in mm's jacking the stock around for quick bucks. But then somebody posts on the RSYS Chatline that the shorts may be against the box of shares owned by Intel or Tech. We huddle together and say this makes sense because the huge short position doesn't seem to change much whether the stock is high or low, which you would think would change if it were regular short-sellers. We also know that we want more price stability and more shares outstanding so our stock can go up and stay up. We know we have to drastically lower this short interest and we know that John Q Public doesn't have that many shares. The shares have got to come from the funds that hold most the stock.

We decide to throw a few curves out at the upcoming Red Chip Review aimed directly at the Funds. Horrific statements such as "exposure to SOUTH EAST ASIA" and target stock prices of $55 in 12-18 months send chills down the back of shorter term Fund Managers. Now Fund Mangr. #1 talks with Fund Mangr.#2 and says, "Did you hear what Turner said at the last Red Chip conference?" "Yes, and I am not going to hold this stink'in stock for no rotten 18mos. to just get $55 out of it when there are other stocks soaring all around us. The funds sell big time starting 3/25--almost a million shares in three days. John Q public is not sucking all this stock up otherwise the price would be below $20.

I am Intel again, and all of a sudden I see all these shares coming out at below key support of $34. I still don't want to or can't give up my own shares to cover my huge short position so I elect to by the shares at these low prices to close out. I don't believe I have to file a 13D or 13G because I am not adding to my current position, I am just paying back shares I have borrowed and sold.
If this is what has happened then we should see a huge drop in RSYS shares short in April's short data, which is due 4/15 and will be out about 8 days later. I am hoping this is exactly the case. I would then believe that this is the last time you'll see RSYS at these prices and it will hold at much higher prices, perhaps much higher than $55.

Bill