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Gold/Mining/Energy : Arconenergy, Inc. (Long Term Investors and Fundamentals) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: John H who wrote (456)	3/29/1998 11:31:00 AM
From: Jack Phillips	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1757

John H: I see your profile says that you have been a visitor starting today only so how can it be that you have "read this thread since it started". - just curious. OK maybe you mean that you have just read today the entire thread since the beginning OK. Anyway having read the thread myself it never became clear to me just how Arcon CHEMICALS ( that seems to carry the real nugget of future promise) related to Arconenergy. Somewhat significant if you want to be sure just under which shell lies the peanut. Maybe someone can explain the relationship - for which I will be very truly grateful. BTW since it must be still very fresh in your mind did the matter of Arcon Chemicals v Arconenergy become clear to you John when you read the thread? Jack Phillips

To: John H who wrote (456)	3/29/1998 11:47:00 AM
From: Binder	Respond to of 1757

John, Sometimes, you can put out all available information on a stock. You can't really say anything new until new information is available. To do so would be both speculative and irresponsible at best, and possibly even illegal. As for the management participation on this thread, I would have to say that any company that concerns itself more with the stock price and less with the development and growth of the company would send up a red flag for me. I DO NOT WANT to see the CEO's of the companies I am investing in posting messages about the stock performance on the internet. I would rather see them negotiating deals and running the business of the company. As far as the plants themselves, I may be wrong, but I think I recall somewhere on this thread links to actual photos of the plants which GaBard took himself and presented to this thread. You cannot even begin to imagine the time and personal expense this man put into providing us all with solid DD. Now if your decision to invest in this stock was based solely on the DD you saw on this thread early on, then you should be as comfortable with your investment today as you were the day you bought it, because nothing has changed. If you are not, you should probably sell it now, chalk it up to experience, and next time buy based on your own DD rather than that of others. This is one of those companies that you should treat like you would a blue chip. Buy it and forget about it. It is an INVESTMENT, not a TRADE. If you are looking for a quick day trade, there are thousands of other stocks ripe for the picking. But, in my opinion, MIDL is a long term investment. As for the shareholder's meeting, I may be wrong, but I don't remember the company ever giving a definitive date for the meeting at any time in the past. The date of May 26 has only recently come out. I wouldn't have a dinner party before the dinner is ready, and I don't think the company wants to have a shareholders meeting until they are completely ready, with deals in hand. I for one would be pretty upset if I went all the way to Dallas for a meeting that consisted of "this is what we want to do, or this is our plan" I would rather hear "This is what we have accomplished, and here is what we are doing right now." Again, I may be wrong, but I think this is what may be meant by "defining" the company. Statements based on definitive fact rather than speculative intent. Good luck to you. :-) Binder

To: John H who wrote (456)	3/29/1998 11:58:00 AM
From: Ga Bard	Respond to of 1757

~Ga Bard, you spoke at one point about the openness of this new management and their willingness to get involved with the thread.~ Answer: I do not recall stating that why would they ... they do not care about their stock price. Everything is stated already in the first 100 post. ~The financing of the leasehold interests in the fields has also never been discussed. Who is behind these transactions? How do you all know that anything is really happening? Have the plants you described in earlier posts even begun to be assembled or put in place?~ Answer: I dunno and personally I don't care. I know they had hoped to have one DF-144 operating in April by the documentation I have of projections but the state of Texas is probably causing them to meet design standards so really I do not know what the status is. I will just accumulate along and wait an see. We don't know anything is happening which is why the thread is dead. This is a long NOT a ,momentum or day trade. ~To me, the silence has been somewhat deafening from the company. I am also concerned that the amazing introductory reports and discussions have recently deterioratied into back and forth "do be do be do" messages that no longer contain much real information or analysis. Several of the writers to the thread talk about the company defining itself. What do you all really mean by this? ~ Answer: Well what do you expect I have nothing to say I have not said before. Everything I know is posted and verified and just waiting for the defining process. I do not care if takes another 6 months for I personally am still accumulating. ~Many people, including myself, doubtlessly have bought into this stock based on Ga Bard's many missives setting forth the company's bright purposes, missions and approaches. Does defining itself simply mean getting going or is there something more basic missing here? I thought it had already been defined in the broad sense, as set forth in your DD? Ga Bard, would you please explain this constant talk about definition.~ Answer: Well John if you bought in this stock on my say so then you have no idea why you bought it then you sir are a SHEEP. Also I have told everyone this is an INVESTMENT not some ridiculous momentum hyped stock that is going to the moon. Now as far as defining goes is basically I posted everything I got in my DD and we on this thread have done our best to verify it. It is now in the company's hands to define the stautus and so forth of all the information posted here. That sir is just a waiting period in most stocks. ~Also going undiscussed, I feel, is the constant pushing back of promised shareholder meetings and company decisions? Is this a matter of concern for anyone else?~ Answer: well I hope it is but everyone knows they just came public 2 months ago and have been in closed meeting more than most companies I know. I guess when they have the path paved and the cart on the path they will hook up the horse. Really there is nothing to talk about that has not already been said and beat to death with speculation. Just waiting for the defining process where the company informs the real world of what is going on. It is called patiently waiting for an INVESTMENT to define the operations and stautus of the business plan to the real world. ~Finally, with respect I want to say that what promised to be an information thread is becoming something of a glad hander while already in investors hum back and forth about things they do not appear to really know or just express their hopes. I urge that you all recommit this thread to passing on knowledge not just the sound's of hopeful music. As I do not have such knowledge myself I will only appear occasionally to ask questions or to congratulate you all in the hopefully likely event that you are right about this stock.~ Answer: Well I started this thread and I am the one with MY OWN POCKET MONEY paying for flights and phone calls and everything while supporting what has been posted but not hyping. I personally do not give flip about what you hope to find out. Call the company and spend a few bucks doing your own blasted DD. Traders like you make me ill. THERE IS NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT!!! We are all are waiting like you and I have owned this stock since September. I nor anyone on this thread owes you one single bit of information. If your common sense says you have a loser then sell it. Report me to the SEC because I misled you with my DD. Everything I have posted I have in Black and white and I spend hours along with some others on here posting all the information. here is the URL report me ... sec.gov FYI a 'do be do be dooo' is content emotional response. This thread is a open forum and you cannot always talk about a stock. If I were cheerleading then that would be hype. I have basically gone silent till there is something to talk about. This thread will in fact pick up when the stock starts moving up again and the company gives us something to discuss. Until then you know what the rest of us do. Welcome to long hold position. ALSO on another note the stock is picking up steasm of late and suddenly you sign on as of today and come straight here wanting answers. Well as far as I am concerned get them yourself. This is starting to be so transparent it is not funny. If you believe the company is going to accomplish what has been posted in the next year then you have made a solid investment if you don't then why did you buy this stock. If you bought because of me then you need to put your money in a mutual fund. I DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO BLINDLY FOLLOW ME. Read my posts I tell people DON"T I post DD for everyone to review it and consider it as a stepping stone to their own DD. SIR USE COMMON SENSE. If you weren't such a sheep you would know the trading logs and activity is starting to pick up so apparently it is not this site that is causing that. ALSO I purposely did not place the ticker symbol on this thread only the reverse merger corporation's registered name. HECK if you try to find this thread it is tuff. and the MIDL thread has been dead for a while now. Now apparentloy they have revenues and money because they are not seling stock with the voluime I as seeing nor are they worried about it because of the silence. ALSO if you have been studying and keeping up with your INVESTMENT you would clearly see this one is being bought and some sell it off. ALSO the volume it takes to move it in so small it is not even funny. You have a good day sir and THINK and use common sense before you go to a thread and ask questions. I always question why posters do not call the company they have money in and ask the questions. Maybe it is just me. GaBard

To: John H who wrote (456)	3/29/1998 1:40:00 PM
From: Earl Falwell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1757

To: John H. From: Earl Falwell I have personally called the company and confirmed everything that has been posted here and then some. Time lines in this particular investment are of little importance to me. All will become apparent soon enough. Allows me more time to collect shares at these current prices. Best of luck, (Do be do be doo be do) Earl Falwell

To: John H who wrote (456)	3/29/1998 2:37:00 PM
From: jeffrey rainey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1757

john I see that you are new to this thread and perportedly a past Quadrax stockholder, I f an investor ever needed a stock to cut his/her teeth on that was it. That company put out so much B.S that many of us lost our a$$es. I lost over 15 grand,I fell hook line an sinker for the company hype and may in hindsight joined in on the B.S. This is a completely differant stock and situation. The DD done on this stock is amazing,every single thing that GaBard has given to this thread has been checked and rechecked.His bills assocated with doing the DD on this company must be in the thousands. I have spent hours on the phone with the EPA with contacts in Houston relatives in Califorina concerning MBTE and it's affects on the enviroment. I have copies of all the patient applications and registrations Others have done the same or more maybe you should start some yourself! You come on this thread like someone owes you something get a life!!! I lost too much money following BSers like those at the "Q" and NO ONE here owes you anything but many here give freely of what they find! Gary most of all! So do yourself and the rest a favor, read all the info, get informed and stop shooting from the hip with the scatter gun. whether to invest or not is your decision no one elses your money loss or gain. Regards jeff

To: John H who wrote (456)	3/29/1998 5:19:00 PM
From: Frank Fontaine	Respond to of 1757

John, If You don't believe in the stock, "DON'T BUY IT" If You don't like the way We post to the thread, "DON'T READ IT". Sincerely, Frank.