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To: Mfcheal who wrote (10459)	3/30/1998 12:57:00 PM
From: Spytrdr	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 213176

$ 100-150 million profits Remember! Get in the train NOW

To: Mfcheal who wrote (10459)	3/30/1998 1:01:00 PM
From: Eric Yang	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 213176

Non-G3 inventory does seem to be moving well. 4400, 8600, MP 2000 (not in stock) have all been removed from AppleStore. For those that remain..ie 6500 and 9600, slower models have all been removed. No more 6500/225,250,275...just the 6500/300. These are certainly very good signs. Eric

To: Mfcheal who wrote (10459)	3/30/1998 4:12:00 PM
From: George von Dassow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213176

I'm not so sure that's a sign of anything in particular. The Mac catalogs in the states flagged clones "while they last" or whatever the day the clones were killed, and last I checked a few places were STILL advertising Power and Motorola boxes. Coupled with price cuts, I'd be more inclined to think (MHO) the catalog you're quoting is trying to move stuff. On the other hand, my campus reseller (UWash, a big campus, 35k students), had an easy time getting 8600s and 6500s at the beginning of the quarter... they were trying to sell 'em to people instead of the G3, which they have waiting lists for. Now, however, you can't get 8600s, if you ask about 9600s they say "we don't know if or when we'll get any" and people I know and work with have to get on lists for G3 shipments. This is all anecdote, of course, and I should mention that this campus reseller is not famed, in my experience, for having things ready to go. I've thrice forgone the educational discount to get something now instead of waiting several weeks. I also want to offer a comment on the Adobe connection. My opinion is that Adobe sales probably reflect little on platform sales, as several others have opined as well. I work in a zoology department in which a lot of labs make heavy use of a confocal microscope, generating a lot of digital images which they almost all process on Macs running Photoshop. Well, up until four or five years ago, Photoshop was the thing to buy. Everybody needed a copy. Since then, I don't think anybody has bought a new copy unless they were opening a new lab or expanding the number of machines, because since version 2.5 or 3.0 there hasn't been anything that any of us need. A somewhat analogous case can be made for Illustrator. In other words, for a lot of uses Adobe's bread and butter software has matured, and the people who DO buy new copies and upgrades are the real pros. For the rest of us, there are more options now, from Adobe's cheapo product (I forget what it's called) to shareware apps. When I bought a new machine this summer I didn't even consider buying a $250 (educational) copy of Photoshop, I registered for an additional copy of GraphicConverter, a shareware program that for my purposes replaces Photoshop completely. So I don't think people ought to watch Adobe for signs of life in the Mac platform, unless the news is good. The problem is, which software makers WOULD make good indicators? Macromedia? Most of their software is for people doing serious creative work. Quark? Same thing. The only things I can think of are Intuit and Microsoft (although I haven't bought a new copy of Word and Excel since I upgraded to 5.0 and 4.0 something like seven years ago). Intuit sells consumer software that people have to buy (pretty much) every year (as far as I know) and Office, well, that seems sort of obvious. So does anyone know anything about these guys' sales this quarter? Sorry to be long-winded, - George