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To: Alejandro who wrote (3712)4/1/1998 12:11:00 PM
From: Kent J. Davis  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78520
 
ALI,
I can appreciate where you are coming from, almost every text
out there will go to great lengths to downplay bookvalue claiming it
is obsolete or misstated. Yet in the next chapter they key in on return
on equity , which uses book value in the denominator.
I think the big problem is that most folks don't understand what happens
above and below book value. To me the price of the stock relative
to book determines the proper financial strategy for the firm. You are
correct, I use book to measure ( like a yard stick) or benchmark value.
My original work on the subject started in the early 1980's when I
owned lots of shares (for me at least) of Mattel ( the toy Maker). They
were in big trouble when their intellivision product became obsolete.
I proceeded to write a letter to the board of directors suggesting that
they buy back some shares- in the letter I made a bold statement which
went like this, " Earnings vary as a function of stock price rather stock
price varring as a function of earnings". I got a very interesting reaction-
they called me up and said the board had talked about this particular
statement for several hours. The financial VP suggested that this was
something that I should research further. Shortly, thereafter Mattel
took a $800 million write- down and struck an equity deal with a firm
I have since forgotten. As a result They survived.
That event started my work/research into book value and it's
relationship to corporate financial strategy. If you know the Price to Book
ratio, you can pretty much figure out ( at least conceptually) what is happening
in the board room. As far as I am concerned , this is the most important
financial ratio that exists.
Kent



To: Alejandro who wrote (3712)4/1/1998 7:25:00 PM
From: Chuzzlewit  Respond to of 78520
 
Ali, I've been wrestling with the problem for some time. I think there is a good analogy to be made here to the leasing business. Suppose you lease an asset to another individual, and you want to sell that lease to a third party. What is the lease worth? Answer:

Case 1: if bankruptcy is not an issue it is the capitalized stream of payments called for under the lease.

Case 2: if bankruptcy is a potential issue, it is the sum of the capitalized lease payments likely to be received plus the liquidation value of the asset.

Now here's the point. In neither case is the historic or carrying value of the asset an issue. It is irrelevant.

I believe that it's exactly the same in a company. What I care about most are the capitalized value of future free cash flows. But if the value of those cash flows is exceeded by the value of the assets that generated them I suspect that such a business is ripe for liquidation.

Regards,

Paul