To: Kashish King who wrote (9729 ) 4/3/1998 3:31:00 AM From: Charles Hughes Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 10836
>>>What's important is the availability of Java-based applications and there's no stopping that. <<< Well, the Java home page now boasts that there are 150 pure java applications. One description: "Lets you notify friends and colleagues (who are also using DigitalMessenger software) when you are on line" Doesn't sound real heavy duty. Most of the other applications are also internet enabling in one way or another. Not much to show for several years of development. Meanwhile, in C++ land we finished that many applications for unix and the Mac last week, I would bet. Certainly for Windows. Until we have stable base classes (1.2 support minimum, widely distributed), audio, and video device support we don't have much to work with (I do multimedia, graphics, games, visualization, media.) It's way early to talk about inevitable victory on general purpose computing platforms. Personally, I got tired of people telling me the GUI classes (like AWT) were all going to be fixed in the next release of the JDK. Or when Netscape released Javagator. Or now when all those free Navigator code users thrash their way through the zillion lines of code and insert their new JVM. You can bet your ass Microsoft isn't going to fix it. So I've stopped development in Java, until I can get paid. And I don't mean what a 22 year old gets paid for working 15 hours and then sleeping under the desk. I know that it's MSFT that has created this situation, mostly, and purposefully, but what does knowing that do for me? My customers want to ship something for this Christmas, not the third millenium. Apparently the 1.2 stuff is pretty good, but I can't release anything with that on my web site, can I? I thought I could, I spent a lot of time on it last year, I hoped very much that MSFT would be forced to eat this one, but it isn't happening. MSFT seems to be crushing the momentum of the Java industry. Telling us that something is going to be really killer if we just wait 6 months is one we've heard before. From MSFT, in particular. It's called vaporware. Java absolutely is going to succeed on most other devices, though. One can't imagine an alternative on many of the new consumer electronic designs. Cheers, Chaz