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To: Mesaba who wrote (19663)	4/3/1998 1:08:00 PM
From: Intrepid1	Respond to of 108807

After becoming Christian about two years ago and reading and interpreting the Bible myself I have a really hard time believing that Paul wasn't writing out of his butt sometimes. hello Mesaba, according to some biblical scholars, Paul might have been doing other things with his butt in addition to writing out of it. purething

To: Mesaba who wrote (19663)	4/3/1998 2:10:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Respond to of 108807

M, Your spirit of honesty is beautiful. When I read the Bible through for the first time I also had difficulty with Paul. The Spirit kept telling me in my heart that all the Scriptures were inspired by God and the Epistles of Paul are the Holy Scriptures. All of the early Christians and Apostles accepted the Epistles of Paul. All of the early Church Fathers accepted the Epistles of Paul. So, when we attempt to reject Paul, we have a real problem As a young Christian, you must keep a humble heart before God about this matter. Let me tell you a bit about what I learned from studying Paul. Paul was a unique Apostle. He was a zealous antichrist Pharisee who persecuted Christians unto death before his conversion. His hatred for Christ and Christians was symptomatic of the new antichirst Judaism that was developing during those early years of the Church. On the other side of the coin was the Christian Jews who made up almost 100% of the early Church. The period between the Crucifixion and REsurrection of Jesus in 33A.D. and the destruction of the Temple, the Jewish nation and the Jewish religion in 70A.D. was the most tragic period in ancient Hebrew history. The Jews had been waiting for their redeeming Messiah since the days of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. All of the Law, Prophets and historical books focused on this great day of redemption and salvation for Israel and the whole world. Suddenly, their Messiah had come and had been Crucified and raised from the dead. Thousand had seen and touched their Messiah and expereinced His miracles. Thousands continued to believe as they followed to the Cross in near despair and thousands rejoiced when He rose from they dead to sit on David's throne at the right hand of God as their eternal saviour and King. The Jewish believers were being Born Again and filled with the Holy Spirit of God through their simple faith in their Messiah. The religious civil leaders of the Jewish had rejected Jesus and had deceitfully plotted against their Messiah to have Him "legally" killed by the raging gentiles--the Romans. The Jewish people had been divided between the followers of Christ and the rejecters of Christ--the emerging Church and the emerging "Synagogue of Satan" REv.2;9,3:9. The Jewish people were torn between their once God-ordained religion of Temple Judaism and the new religion of the Messiah--torn between the Old Covenant and New Covenant. This was a spiritually tragic period. Only the Holy Spirit of God could discern the sincere hearts among the Jews. Those who were merely cultural and racial Jews but lacked the faith of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob rejected Jesus and joined the "Synagogue of Satan"--modern Judaism. Those who had the faith of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob recognized their Messiah and were saved and became memebers of the New Coveannt Judaism- The Body of Christ, the Christian Church. Here is where Paul come in. Paul was given the revelation necessary to explain this transition from the Old Covenant to the New Covenant. Paul was to explain the righteouness of God that comes through faith in Jesus as opposed to a righteounsess of works as indicated by the Old dead Covenant. God used Paul to explain the nature of the New People of God--the New Jerusalem. God used Pual to explain that circumcision was a matter of the heart in the New Coveanant. Paul used God to explain that all the promises of God in the Old Covenant were appropriated through the New Coveanant Lamb of God. Paul the Pharisse who understood perfectly the false dreams and righteouness of works that the Pharasiacal sects and scribes aspired to. He understood perfectly the shadows and symbols of the Old Coveanant that had been fulfilled in the New Covenant in Jesus' Blood. Paul had experience and probably continued to experience all of the pains and confusion of going from the Old Covenant to the New Covenant. In the end, Paul counted all of the shadows, the culture and ethnic heritage of the old shadows as dung compared to the Holy Spirit he had received through faith in Jesus Christ--the New Covenant. Of course, God gave these revelation to other Apostles and disciples aslo as is apparent in the Espitstles of John, James and Peter, etc. These are my feelings on the matter. In Christ Emile