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To: Paul Roder who wrote (52007)4/3/1998 4:19:00 PM
From: AK2004  Respond to of 186894
 
Paul
actually I do not think that Celeron is going to be cheaper I posted e-mail of small shops in Houston that builds k6-200 for ~$500 with 32m sdram, 2.1 G HD, 3d surround sound with 4m sound card, etc. They charge less than $100 (included in 500) for k6 while the difference in m-board prices between s7 and pii roughly on the order of $100. Intel would be able to match k6 price with Celeron only if they give it for free and in order to beat k6 prices they would have to pay OEMs for putting it in the systems.
Regards
-Albert



To: Paul Roder who wrote (52007)4/3/1998 5:32:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 186894
 
Paul - Re: "How can this chip be the price/performance leader when it is clearly outperformed by Pentium MMX, as well as Cyrix and AMD offerings already filling these sub-$1000 PC's"

Do you have any data, other than a few "magazines", who reported that this was the case?

Do you know how much these systems will sell for?

How would you characterize a 266 MHz Celeron machine with a price of, say, $749? Or $675?

Is that what you call a "hoodwinking" price?

If the price is specified and the performance is specified, why do you think that somebody is being "hoodwinked?.

Remember - Intel is NOT selling a Pentium II for these prices. A Pentium II implies that the L2 cache SRAM is included. This is a CELERON - get used to that name - A Celeron uses a similar IC but the first Celeron incarnation includes no L2 cache.

Do AMD customers get hoodwinked because a K6 has no L2 cache included but requires additional costs to add this feature?

Are you crying to AMD that they are hoodwinking their customers because K6 perfromance is drastically reduced if the K6 is used WITHOUT and EXTRA COST L2 cache?

Are you concerned that AMD and Cyrix all provide benchmark data with LARGE L2 caches in their systems, and these caches ARE NOT part of the K6 or 6x86MX but are EXTRA COST ITEMS?

Paul