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Gold/Mining/Energy : Global Platinum & Gold (GPGI) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Chuck Bleakney who wrote (5611)	4/3/1998 10:13:00 PM
From: JACK R. SMITH JR.	Respond to of 14226

Chuck, If Joe is doing what he says he is doing, then our present understand of physics and chemsitry are totally wrong. He goes against the greatest minds in history. His process is apparently very low energy. Transmutation is possible in conventional theory at very, very high energy levels. At those levels, the amounts are ultra miniscule. Perhaps he has a revolutionary thing going. If I did, I would not put it on a web site and crow about it all the time, I would simply build a front company, such as a supplier of gold castings for jewelry, and produce the raw materials in the back room from mercury and lead. I might get in trouble with the IRS, but then I would hire a very expeienced accountant to cook the books. Just kidding, folks!! Could be very lucrative if you get the low energy physics working for you, I must admit. My strategy would be to move my gold machine to a high wind area and use wind generators for my power source, and the ideal situation would be a high wind area with native lead and mercury. Even more ideal would be the former at the top of a long hill with a capable refiner at the bottom. One could simply string a wire top to bottom, hang the gold on the wire and let it go. That would save on shipping costs nd make the whole process more efficient. The refiner could wire the money back via electronic means to the bank of choice. That is how efficient companies work! Anyone found a company that efficient!! Good Luck, Joe!!

To: Chuck Bleakney who wrote (5611)	4/3/1998 10:14:00 PM
From: Joe Champion	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14226

Chuck, >>What I don't see is how he can make any money from it by talking about it... no one is going to be willing to buy something from him without proof... and to believe that they are going to have to produce their own from "scratch" they go out and acquire on their own. If he spreads this "truth" too widely then gold is not going to have much value, so his best bet is to sit on it and produce enough to live comfortably with no one being the wiser... << With respect, I am not selling anything other than precious metals. Prior to someone buying, they take the material, sample it, perform an assay and if the assay is close to mine, I sell the precious metals to them. My point of stepping in and out of these threads is to bring to life a reality that laboratory scale transmutation occurs in numerous laboratories. This is not bad. However, if one is basing a mine on only an "esoteric" assay, without a methodology to take the esoteric assay procedure into production, then they are not a mining company but a potential "new tech" company. As I have stated in the past, I have a great respect for Wayne Palmer at GPGI, but he continuously is pulling his hair. Please allow me to explain. Mining companies that are not working in the "norm" of standard recovery develop their own proprietary processes. Some make lead dore bars, some make copper dore bars and some make a precipitant. Now how hard is it to remove precious metals from a copper bar, that is, assuming that the copper bars meet the standard requirements? Simple, you electrowinn the copper away and in the sludge you have precious metals and some base metals. From here you simply extract the precious metals by standard metallurgical processes. Companies have been doing this for decades. When one is close to the situation, they unknowingly add certain twists and turns. Wayne and Russell are quite capable of recovering the precious metals, I have full confidence and first hand knowledge of this. However, when they try to ramp up the process, they run into all sorts of problems. This is not only the story of GPGI, but all of the esoteric, complex ore mining companies for the past 50 years. As far as my work, I do not have to prove anything to anyone. Although, I have an open door and if someone wants to visit our little facility all it takes is an appointment, nothing more. During the past two years, I have offered numerous invitations to all of the desert dirt companies in the Phoenix area. Hell, I even offered an invitation to BRE-X. There is neither cover charge nor obligation and to date, no one has accepted the invitation. At any rate, I sincerely wish all involved in the DD's good luck. I will continue will my small production and be happy. Joe Champion transmutation.com

To: Chuck Bleakney who wrote (5611)	4/4/1998 9:41:00 AM
From: Chuca Marsh	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 14226

<<... If he spreads this "truth" too widely then gold is not going to have much value, so his best bet is to sit on it and produce enough to live comfortably with no one being the wiser... If its not "transmutation" but simply recovering previously unrecoverable metals from common sources, it is still going to have a similar effect of reducing the value of these metals because of less rarity then previously thought...>> And that is what the Desert Dirts/ Complex Minerals Group is doing with the element and the Economics of Scarcity. Majic of compounding is not just money at a given interest rate but with a combinational chemistry which will extrct the combined goodies. I was talking to DCRS at the Wickenburg phone number yesterday and they said the same thing that the Maxam Chairman and Maxam President, Dale and Al, said in the prior ten days to me. That it is the "Hot Spots" that must be keyed into, not the "Vastness Area Spots of a blanket of Areas." Thus, economics must be keyed into the HOT SPOTS of claims and thusly richer areas in the exploration process. ( Ie - It goes without saying the "proving - up process", and the survey understanding by newtech enhancement processes in order to balance the dirt (ie compunds that Joe C is talking about in his process, JIMHO) with the addage of " what is there; IS THERE, What's Not - is NOT!" So, Joe told me that he could work with what is there; but yet, he told me he could work with what is NOT there- but purchased ....OFF THE SHELF. What is the balance here...I have no clue. I am not a Chemist, nor a geologist, yet a knowledge of that information and several electrical and physical science fields is needed as a generalist as Dale Runyon told me- to find such a generalist as he found in Dick Hewett is truly a gift. So in sum, the complex nature of the five disciplines that are needed, IMHO, to make the economics work on this NEWTECH EXTRACTION! The ....work...is...scaled off from several sources and the ECONOMICS will be proven by FIVE DIFFERENT SCIENCES contributing to the whole. As an aside. Frank at DCRS can and has extracted in his Mongoose, quanties of Platinum. The economics are such that he must be PROVIDED with GOOD NUMBER GRADE of head ore. ( He mentioned concentrates). He said that a housing community is being tried to put in near the Wichenburg Inn down the way from him. Did I call that Yuppie Land or what last fall. I liked the Chuck Wagon on their sign and in their entrance ( they light up the inside of the covered wagon at night-it made a good picture). They have about a thousand patented acres there at / by the Inn ...good old Mirv Griffin who ownes and started the thing sure knows a golden area to pick ...maybe even...a platinum area. Now, that is My Mirv Big Head Philosphy!!! Head em up and move em out, head of the highway is the PRIME REAL ESTATE LANDS! Let him put in a score or two of 1 acre house lots; he deserves to make a buck- he always does- HE CAN TELL folks they are possibly sitting on a Pluton or Batholith of Platinum or Gold ...once GPGI is producing from the Oro Grande in a year or so...it is 5 miles away! Mirv Mining company on the left over 500 acres, has a funny ring- The Price Is Right/ Wheel of Fortune Presents! Gad - I love this scenario! This just may be a Mirv Griffin Show. Now, Joe Champion, who the hell is this Mr Griffin that you talked about, different first name. Why was CHIP- L.S. Capital formerly Known as Griffin Gold??? I was on the phone with a CHIP subsideratory guy yerterday, I forgot to ask...It is a common name and there is PROBABLY no relationship. But why is this so interesting to me, is the calculation of the absurd really correct, is just a penny per ounce in the ground that I was funning around with a friends' Nuclear Math Equations really correct? ( Simply high is what I will say at that valuation PER SQ KILOMETER -Just under a $Million per SQ KM just down to 20 feet ) And a Kilometer is .65 of a square mile. Those that realize, will not be SHOCKED BY THE FUTURE! Areuready??? ? Chucauptalso