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To: Clam Clam who wrote (1787)	4/6/1998 8:30:00 PM
From: Melissa McAuliffe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3033

Clam, Thanks for the advice. I didn't get a great feeling today and your response somewhat confirms it. I can find better ways to lose money anyway than on options. Plus I'm waiting for the market pullback which is supposed to start tomorrow. At least that's what CNBC says and if they say it we know it must be so. We all know that the media is always right...followed very closely by the analysts. Melissa

To: Clam Clam who wrote (1787)	4/7/1998 11:51:00 AM
From: Amsterdam	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3033

I heard that the Schwab installation has not gone well for SEBL but the Vantive installation has been very successful. Of course part of it could be the normal difficulties of SEBL getting stuck with the undisciplined sales organization and Vantive getting the well-defined support organization, relatively speaking. I suspect that Charles Schwab told his organization to buy Sebl, but there was never full buy-in which is necessary for a successful installation. Vantive probably had a normal sales cycle which ensured a more successful installation. It will be interesting to see whether Charles Schwab puts his weight behind Sebl again, and if not, whether anyone in Schwab feels free to sideline a product where the chairman is on the board. I think not.