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To: Grainne who wrote (13472)	4/6/1998 8:58:00 PM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Christine, you won't ever find me defending Catholic so-called priests who molest children. They should be tried in a court of law if there is evidence someone has abused a child, just like any person, and be subjected to whatever punishment the laws of the land provide for. Again I have to summon the words from the scripture: "Many are called, but few are chosen", etc. I've quoted other verses to you before, but you've apparently forgotten, and I don't feel like digging up the verses again. But the upshot is this: Not everyone who claims to be a Christian is necessarily a Christian, but God will be a righteous judge. Salvation is between each person's heart and God, and God knows where each person stands. Also, I as a Lutheran obviously have no say-so over what happens in the Catholic church. you are attempting to hold out Christians as more moral and well behaved and monogamous than non-Christians Huh? It is you Christine, who is here on the Ask God thread, trying to tell us what guidelines we should have on morality, both on the homosexual question and: Many people, heterosexual and homosexual, tend to experiment with different partners in their teens and early twenties. I can assure you, Christine, that your moral guidelines as given above do not stand up to the light of holy scripture, which is what Christians use as a moral guide to attempt to live as God wants us to. Christians are not perfect of course, and do fall short of the glory of God. Nevertheless, Christians are not scripturally free to pursue all manner of fleshly lusts. I can assure you also that I do reject your personal moral guidelines, and that they do fall very short of what I follow. I guess that just makes us different. I'll make you a deal, Christine: You don't tell me what my moral guidelines should be, and I won't tell you want your guidelines should be. It is you who insist that Christians are wrong in their moral guidelines, so you have been telling us this. My wish: That you cease and desist in trying to run my and other Christians' moral lives. It's NONE of your business what behavior I hold as moral and virtuous.

To: Grainne who wrote (13472)	4/8/1998 1:08:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 39621

EXCUSE ME????!!!!!! Have you read any factual historical studies of Hitler in relationship to factual history pertaining to WWII? Or do you just read pagan droppings, made up as they walk? Hitler was NOT a catholic. There is no history whatsoever of Hitler in church anywhere, except perhaps dragged there as a child. Even you, pagan cheerleader and head witch of SI, were probably also dragged to church somewhere, sometime by someone. That certainly never made you associate yourself with Christianity, did it? AU CONTRAIRE. But I believe you were. It means nothing, does it? By college age, late teens he was lost in the Thule society secret garbage, hidden and sinister it was, and for good reason. It produced Hitler the man, after he joined league with satan. You had better be a heck of a lot better researcher than I am Christine, and in that area I think you will run a slow third or fourth, not even a close second. It is interesting that also Castro is touted as a religious youth who sought the priesthood. And I believe that is equally made up historical lies thrown around by those who benefit from lies and are highly threatened by truth. What I would say about the priesthood probably is not too good anyway. Their history is ungodly, not from scripture, and for centuries they were human nightmares. So, if you want to associate a lot of the priesthood of the Romish Church with the prince of darkness, do all you want. But do not presume to associate Hitler with my Lord Jesus Christ. His only known association in history of a religious nature was in the study of things of satan. Proven fact, and in your face. If there is anything I cannot stand its a lying idea spread around as truth. And the most unbearable form of all is to lie about the Son of God. He was NOT the inspiration for Hitler. And in case you don't like to remember, all forms of satan on earth are called "god". Hideous little twisted carved images are called "god" by the pathetic fools who made them. Even the Bible acknowledges that he is loved as the god of this world by the lost and purely evil. You know all of these things very well, Christine. So be true to yourself.